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Estimated 1.56B face masks will have entered oceans in 2020

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Re: Estimated 1.56B face masks will have entered oceans in 2020

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Post by matz1 »

ben_w wrote: post #17
matz1 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Mask is only for compliance and to make other people feeling good, thats it, thats the only usage. It is not to stop virus because it can't, unless maybe a very specific type of mask and with proper training.

They help even when they are worn wrong. https://kottke.org/plus/misc/images/swiss-cheese-pandemic.jp...

how it help, from the picture it shown that virus particle are smaller than mask pores.

Masks: The Science & The Myths : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4

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Post by greenshackle2 »

frankbreetz wrote: post #3
hyko wrote: post #2

Sounds like a completely made up figure.

>>The report used a global production estimate of 52 billion masks being manufactured in 2020, a conservative loss rate of 3%, and the average weight of 3 to 4 grams for a single-use polypropylene surgical face mask to arrive at the estimate. It sounds like and estimate

I found no justification for the 3% figure in the actual report.

EDIT: my bad, the justification is a 3% estimated rate for all plastics globally.

Re: Estimated 1.56B face masks will have entered oceans in 2020

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Post by greenshackle2 »

josefresco wrote: post #4
hyko wrote: post #2

Sounds like a completely made up figure.

"The report used a global production estimate of 52 billion masks being manufactured in 2020, a conservative loss rate of 3%" However I didn't see a link to the report itself which prevents me from speaking on the methodology of the loss rate value.

The report is available at the end of the page. It's some awful embedded PDF reader thing.

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Post by maerF0x0 »

th0ma5 wrote: post #9
thedudeabides5 wrote: post #7

Imagine the archeologists in the year 100,000, sorting through rock samples and going "oh look, there's the mask pollution from the great 2020 pandemic"

I think about this a lot, our footprint as seen by future anthropologists.

I've thought about it a little. If everything is digital and in deprecated formats then there could be a sort of "dark ages"... even without some kind of end of world scenario to wipe out the evidence. We could simply just forget how to access it. Eg: in yr 3030 will we still know how to open pdfs ,flash files, or say PS4 games?

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Post by yibg »

matz1 wrote: post #21
ben_w wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They help even when they are worn wrong. https://kottke.org/plus/misc/images/swiss-cheese-pandemic.jp...

how it help, from the picture it shown that virus particle are smaller than mask pores. Masks: The Science & The Myths : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4

Because the virus particles travel on other things, and those other things are big enough to get blocked.

Re: Estimated 1.56B face masks will have entered oceans in 2020

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Post by asutekku »

nickthemagicman wrote: post #11
probably_wrong wrote: post #8

Whenever I go outside and see >50% people wearing disposable masks I wonder... Why? Did they only find out about the pandemic right now and it caught them off-guard? I have had reusable masks since April. I assumed everyone was doing the same, but everytime I go outside I prove myself wrong. I don't get it.

The reason medical professionals wear disposable masks in clinics is because reusable masks don't work. Actual correct mask usage means changing masks numerous times a day.

There's a slight difference on what is required by a medical professional and by someone just commuting. Sure, one could always do better, but reusable masks are adequate.

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Post by WhiskeyVictor »

neaanopri wrote: post #20
matz1 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Mask is only for compliance and to make other people feeling good, thats it, thats the only usage. It is not to stop virus because it can't, unless maybe a very specific type of mask and with proper training.

Masks work. If everyone is wearing a mask, there are at least two masks between you and an infected person. Masks don't provide 100% protection, but nothing does. However, masks are important, because they enable people to safely perform essential activities like grocery shopping, and most jobs. We don't need to stop _every single transmission_, all that we need to do is make sure that each infected person doesn't in…

The data tells a different story.

https://rationalground.com/post-thanksgiving-mask-charts-sti...

Re: Estimated 1.56B face masks will have entered oceans in 2020

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Post by matz1 »

neaanopri wrote: post #20
matz1 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Mask is only for compliance and to make other people feeling good, thats it, thats the only usage. It is not to stop virus because it can't, unless maybe a very specific type of mask and with proper training.

Masks work. If everyone is wearing a mask, there are at least two masks between you and an infected person. Masks don't provide 100% protection, but nothing does. However, masks are important, because they enable people to safely perform essential activities like grocery shopping, and most jobs. We don't need to stop _every single transmission_, all that we need to do is make sure that each infected person doesn't in…

>Masks don't provide 100% protection,

So 1% protection ?

>but nothing does. However, masks are important, because they enable people to safely perform essential activities like grocery shopping, and most jobs.

fortunately that the chance of getting sick from covid from doing those activities without mask are very very low.

infection is not useful metric because only small percentage actually cause sickness.

Masks: The Science & The Myths : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RaBLKKXJt4

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