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Record Breaking Number of Journalists Arrested in the U.S. This Year

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Post by smnrchrds »

pas wrote: post #151
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Just because someone is a journalist does not give them a pass from breaking the law. I’m entirely on the side of real journalism so it was interacting to see some people that thought a press badge meant they didn’t need to also follow police orders.

Not following police order is grounds for arrest, not for getting a riot shield bashed into one's face.

I don't know about the US, but here in Canada not following police orders is not by itself grounds for arrest. It has to be a lawful order, not whatever the police fancies at the moment. The police cannot for example say "stop filming or I will arrest you" and be able to legally justify that arrest in the court of law.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6233399/supreme-court-montreal-es...

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Post by garyfirestorm »

willis936 wrote: post #155
everdrive wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What the YoY stonks increase on Americans shot by rubber bullets? What is a YoY stonk

It is a year-over-year stock, as typed on r/wallstreetbets.

A man/woman of culture amongst us

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Post by shadowgovt »

willis936 wrote: post #155
everdrive wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What the YoY stonks increase on Americans shot by rubber bullets? What is a YoY stonk

It is a year-over-year stock, as typed on r/wallstreetbets.

This interaction demonstrates the risk of taking Reddit slang out of its native context.

Re: Record Breaking Number of Journalists Arrested in the U.S. This Year

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Post by hobofan »

hyperman1 wrote: post #156
everdrive wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What the YoY stonks increase on Americans shot by rubber bullets? What is a YoY stonk

I assume YoY is the year over year increase. Stonk mystifies me too, maybe some typo? Update: stonk=slang for bombardment, according to a quick google.

stonk = stock in memespeak

Re: Record Breaking Number of Journalists Arrested in the U.S. This Year

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Post by ehejsbbejsk »

user764743 wrote: post #144

Reading the comments in this thread and I am amazed at the sudden pro-authoritarian shift seen on HN lately, what's going on?

I see a lot of “libertarians” on HN and SV in general.

Edit: Ok now I am getting downvoted because I called them libertarians when they’re libertarians.

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Post by fwsgonzo »

user764743 wrote: post #144

Reading the comments in this thread and I am amazed at the sudden pro-authoritarian shift seen on HN lately, what's going on?

There is a lot of right-wing content rabbit holes to fall into. Most people aren't inherently looking to understand what others are going through. It can make you think that others are lazy or ungrateful, and that events, even if they span the whole country - in every state and major city, that these events are just overblown.

Which they obviously are not.

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Post by PeterisP »

underseacables wrote: post #136
boopmaster wrote: post #128

This is because Black Lives Matter™, and because black lives matter. This isn’t a hyper escalation against freedom of the press, per se, it’s an escalation of police on citizen violence that came about when police felt threatened when folks got a little extra vocal about how the racist cops boys club has little to no accountability when harming citizens they’re supposed to protect. I think this narrowly focuses on tr…

When a journalist steps beyond being a journalist and turns into an activist, of course they’re going to get arrested if they break the law. Just because someone is a journalist does not give them a pass from breaking the law.

This argument would be valid if the arrested journalists were in fact breaking the law, but it's not the case - the vast majority of the arrests ended up with prosecutors declining to press charges as the detainees were not breaking any laws. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/us/protests-lawsuits-arre... has some overview, of course the actual pdf linked in the original article has more detail as well.

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Post by jerry1979 »

underseacables wrote: post #136
boopmaster wrote: post #128

This is because Black Lives Matter™, and because black lives matter. This isn’t a hyper escalation against freedom of the press, per se, it’s an escalation of police on citizen violence that came about when police felt threatened when folks got a little extra vocal about how the racist cops boys club has little to no accountability when harming citizens they’re supposed to protect. I think this narrowly focuses on tr…

When a journalist steps beyond being a journalist and turns into an activist, of course they’re going to get arrested if they break the law. Just because someone is a journalist does not give them a pass from breaking the law.

How many of the arrested journalists "stepped beyond" their duty?

It appears that the police harmed journalists during the journalists' regular course of duty: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/31/journa...

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Post by [deleted] »

ehejsbbejsk wrote: post #166
user764743 wrote: post #144

Reading the comments in this thread and I am amazed at the sudden pro-authoritarian shift seen on HN lately, what's going on?

I see a lot of “libertarians” on HN and SV in general. Edit: Ok now I am getting downvoted because I called them libertarians when they’re libertarians.

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