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Re: SwiftUI tutorials rewritten completely

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Post by torarnv » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 7:46 PM UTC

wool_gather wrote: post #109

nhojb wrote: post #98

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Yeah, I feel the same way about Dash 5. Eventually had to upgrade to 5 when 4 became incompatible with the latest Apple docets. But I much preferred the Dash 4 search.

The developer of Dash is very receptive to feedback (in fact I think this change was called out as something that he was interested in hearing opinions on).

That's not my experience. I've reported this to him on two occasions, with screenshots and detailed descriptions of how the UX had regressed.

First one took a year before I got a reply (after reminding him), and only partly answered the request.

The second one I'm still waiting for a reply.

I would love for Dash 5 to fix these issues still, and I would upgrade in a heartbeat, but as it stands, I'm stuck with Dash 4.

The issues are:

1. Dash 4's sidebar shows significantly more hits when searching, making it a lot easier to find what you were looking for, compared to the "omnibar" of Dash 5:

https://i.imgur.com/smuNFws.png vs https://i.imgur.com/SeTShSL.png

2. Dash 4 shows/loads the currently selected search immediately, requiring no extra step. Dash 5 requires the user to press enter to confirm the search. This is especially frustrating when triggering a search from an editor

edit: where did he indicate he was looking for feedback on these features?

Re: SwiftUI tutorials rewritten completely

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Post by mekster » Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 12:50 AM UTC

thewebcount wrote: post #32

arthurcolle wrote: post #15

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I think JetBrains has a XCode replacement but I dont do Apple development so I'm not sure if its possible to use it as a complete replacement for developing macOS, iOS and IPadOS apps. Anyone have first hand experience?

I tried using AppCode on our massive project at work (several million lines of code), and at the time (admittedly a few years ago), I couldn't even start working on any code until it indexed the entire project. I let it run while on a machine I wasn't using and it took several hours to complete. Xcode also takes hours to complete indexing on our project, but it runs in the background instead of blocking the UI so I c…

Any comparisons after indexing is done?

Re: SwiftUI tutorials rewritten completely

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Post by wool_gather » Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 2:09 AM UTC

torarnv wrote: post #111

wool_gather wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The developer of Dash is very receptive to feedback (in fact I think this change was called out as something that he was interested in hearing opinions on).

That's not my experience. I've reported this to him on two occasions, with screenshots and detailed descriptions of how the UX had regressed. First one took a year before I got a reply (after reminding him), and only partly answered the request. The second one I'm still waiting for a reply. I would love for Dash 5 to fix these issues still, and I would upgrade in a heartbeat, but as it stands, I'm stuck with Dash 4.…

> where did he indicate he was looking for feedback on these features?

I thought it was in the release notes for v5, but I can't find them at this point to verify. I suppose I may be misremembering.

Re: SwiftUI tutorials rewritten completely

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Post by keyle » Wed, Dec 16, 2020, 2:41 AM UTC

tempodox wrote: post #37

keyle wrote: post #26

Question, is it doable on Mojave? I can't lose 32 bits apps.

AFAIK, Xcode versions supporting that are bound to 10.15+. It's Apple's usual 1-2 punch.

Yeah and that's the kind of things that really annoy me about Apple.

Re: SwiftUI tutorials rewritten completely

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Post by thewebcount » Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 5:10 AM UTC

mekster wrote: post #112

thewebcount wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried using AppCode on our massive project at work (several million lines of code), and at the time (admittedly a few years ago), I couldn't even start working on any code until it indexed the entire project. I let it run while on a machine I wasn't using and it took several hours to complete. Xcode also takes hours to complete indexing on our project, but it runs in the background instead of blocking the UI so I c…

Any comparisons after indexing is done?

As I say, it's been a few years, but if I recall, it just generally didn't feel like a Mac application. It worked alright and was basically calling the same tools under-the-hood as Xcode does. But there was nothing compelling about it that I could see when I tested it. Perhaps it's better now? I should probably give it another look.