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Y Combinator Challenge #2 - Simplified Browsing

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Re: Y Combinator Challenge #2 - Simplified Browsing

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simplified browsing = google search engine

i've seen 7 years olds using it with incredible ease finding what they want

"and small children don't want the full web; they want to communicate and share pictures and look things up"

Shouldn't they call it simplified communication or simplified file sharing if thats what they mean? I think simplified browsing refers to something else.

Concerning communication, there are already some successful social networks just for children that prevent sharing of personal information.

"communicate and share pictures and look things up"

Also that phrase pretty much sums up the average usage of the internet for any age, not just children.

Re: Y Combinator Challenge #2 - Simplified Browsing

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oh Jesus, how is this simplified? you just introduced a bunch of new functionality. now instead of downloading attachments you need to browse through modules to find them? what happens if the sender is not a trusted contact? it should be simplified not more complicated (which is not what happens if you add IM to it). if your targeted user thinks that FF is too complicated then good luck finding the IM box in your new simplified browser!

Re: Y Combinator Challenge #2 - Simplified Browsing

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The topic of simplified browsing targeted solely to old people comes up all the time with my parents and friends' parents. From what I've collected, old people say they want easier this and that, but when it comes down to it, the individuals that continue to experience difficulty either do not take the time to learn new technology or are hindered by a disability.

If easier means different, how can you expect them to take the time to learn your new approach when they don't take the time to learn something as simple as Google search? Google search is just one huge text box in the middle of the display. It doesn't get much more straightforward. You type what you want to find and then sift through the results.

My mom is the biggest noob when it comes to computers. She doesn't see or expect buttons when she looks at a UI. My mom didn't grow up with GUI's for cable, video games, or computers like I did, but she has been practicing on her computer for the last year or two and is finally getting the hang of it just fine.

I think no matter what you do, a person not used to using computers isn't going to understand without first taking the time to learn the basics.

There is definitely room for improvement though, just don't target any particular age demographic. Someone will come up with something that will make web browsing easier and more efficient for everyone.

Re: Y Combinator Challenge #2 - Simplified Browsing

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post #4

The topic of simplified browsing targeted solely to old people comes up all the time with my parents and friends' parents. From what I've collected, old people say they want easier this and that, but when it comes down to it, the individuals that continue to experience difficulty either do not take the time to learn new technology or are hindered by a disability. If easier means different, how can you expect them to…

Yep, those sound like the kind of users Seth Godin would call "laggards", and trying to build a business around them is usually not the best idea.

Re: Y Combinator Challenge #2 - Simplified Browsing

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simplified browsing = google search engine i've seen 7 years olds using it with incredible ease finding what they want "and small children don't want the full web; they want to communicate and share pictures and look things up" Shouldn't they call it simplified communication or simplified file sharing if thats what they mean? I think simplified browsing refers to something else. Concerning communication, there are al…

7 year olds are searching "darth vader rap" on youtube behind your back. They don't understand the web like you do but they figure out/share how to nav to stuff pretty quick.

Re: Y Combinator Challenge #2 - Simplified Browsing

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The topic of simplified browsing targeted solely to old people comes up all the time with my parents and friends' parents. From what I've collected, old people say they want easier this and that, but when it comes down to it, the individuals that continue to experience difficulty either do not take the time to learn new technology or are hindered by a disability. If easier means different, how can you expect them to…

understanding the 3d elements of computers such as raised buttons and stacks of tabs or folders seems to be a big tripping point. They aren't sure what they can click on and are afraid to just start clicking because they think it will break something. For them "break something" means when the computer does anything that they haven't seen it do before. Simplified web for old people would probably work as just the same browser but with big instruction boxes popping up everywhere. Google would look the same, but with a box and big arrow pointing and saying "type what you want then click here!" basically someone should make the paper clip of microsoft office for firefox. It would intelligently identify common tasks and offer suggestions.

Re: Y Combinator Challenge #2 - Simplified Browsing

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What all OS need is a simpler way to freeze things. My mom constantly calls me because the UI has changed due to accidental clicks, and my instructions don't work anymore. For example, my explanation for attaching pictures to mails (a REALLY complicated task) involves dragging them to the windows icon on the task bar, but somehow her Gnome task bar keeps losing the "windows selector". One accidental click and all effort has been wasted.

Even my own system I would like to be able to freeze. Firefox 3 seems to have gotten quite bad, for example occasionally it accidentally triggers the "change page direction" switch (which btw. seems like the most stupid option ever, this should be buried somewhere 100 layers deep, not top level).

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