Adding Encrypted Group Calls to Signal • Hacker News Board

Re: Adding Encrypted Group Calls to Signal

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Post by 2Gkashmiri » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 8:36 AM UTC

godelski wrote: post #15

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #7

unless they allow no phone accounts, its a non starter for many. including me. having been persecuted for having whatsapp installed on the phone, (which i personally dont, btw) for an adversary like a police state, whatsapp encryption is somewhat moot. public 'news' groups on whatsapp have admins and they are made to report to the local police station where that malware is installed. then its just a matter of time wa…

I heard that they were working on this. https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-introducing-usern...

yeah. i follow that news

Re: Adding Encrypted Group Calls to Signal

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Post by marknadal » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 8:48 AM UTC

Or self-host your own Open Source encrypted call system https://github.com/meething/meething !

Re: Adding Encrypted Group Calls to Signal

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Post by brobinson » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 8:49 AM UTC

WillYouFinish wrote: post #19

Does Signal still fore you to use a phone number? This is a huge deal breaker for a privacy concerned messenger. That's why I prefer using Threema.

Threema is not open source yet so I wouldn't use it for that reason. I did like their security whitepaper, though, and they do have some impressive clients (Mercedes-Benz, etc.).

Re: Adding Encrypted Group Calls to Signal

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Post by darnir » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 8:49 AM UTC

tW4r wrote: post #2

Really waiting for matrix to add native group video calls without jitsi

Is that on the roadmap? I was under the impression that native video calls will never happen. They might bundle jitsi automatically with the homeserver though

Re: Adding Encrypted Group Calls to Signal

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Post by 2Gkashmiri » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 8:52 AM UTC

godelski wrote: post #15

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #7

unless they allow no phone accounts, its a non starter for many. including me. having been persecuted for having whatsapp installed on the phone, (which i personally dont, btw) for an adversary like a police state, whatsapp encryption is somewhat moot. public 'news' groups on whatsapp have admins and they are made to report to the local police station where that malware is installed. then its just a matter of time wa…

I heard that they were working on this. https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-introducing-usern...

you seem to be the only one actually replying to my comment. any idea what is the trigger word resulting in the downvotes?

Re: Adding Encrypted Group Calls to Signal

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Post by captn3m0 » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 8:53 AM UTC

Ansil849 wrote: post #8

> Group calls are currently limited to 5 participants Compared to other apps which offer group E2EE video calls: Duo - 32 participants Facetime - 32 participants Zoom - 100 participants (or 1000 w/ a Large Meeting License)

WhatsApp - 8.

Signal will catch up soon.

Re: Adding Encrypted Group Calls to Signal

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Post by Arathorn » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 9:01 AM UTC

darnir wrote: post #24

tW4r wrote: post #2

Really waiting for matrix to add native group video calls without jitsi

Is that on the roadmap? I was under the impression that native video calls will never happen. They might bundle jitsi automatically with the homeserver though

https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/pull/2359

Re: Adding Encrypted Group Calls to Signal

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Post by szszrk » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 9:05 AM UTC

jayp1418 wrote: post #5

tW4r wrote: post #2

Really waiting for matrix to add native group video calls without jitsi

Matrix is great IRC, slack replacement but signal is WhatsApp replacement.

But to be clear it's rather the other way around [0] :)

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_Protocol#Usage

Re: Adding Encrypted Group Calls to Signal

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 9:10 AM UTC

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #25

godelski wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I heard that they were working on this. https://community.signalusers.org/t/signal-introducing-usern...

you seem to be the only one actually replying to my comment. any idea what is the trigger word resulting in the downvotes?

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Re: Adding Encrypted Group Calls to Signal

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Post by oarsinsync » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 9:14 AM UTC

szszrk wrote: post #28

jayp1418 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Matrix is great IRC, slack replacement but signal is WhatsApp replacement.

But to be clear it's rather the other way around [0] :) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_Protocol#Usage

Assuming you’re suggesting WhatsApp is a Signal replacement, rather than what the previous commentor said, I’m afraid you’re mixing things up. From your Wikipedia link:

> The Signal Protocol's development was started by Trevor Perrin and Moxie Marlinspike (Open Whisper Systems) in 2013.

From the WhatsApp Wikipedia page:

> After months at beta stage, [WhatsApp] launched in November 2009, exclusively on the App Store for the iPhone.

From my own experience, I was on WhatsApp back in 2009-2010 on my OG iPhone that I got as a hand-me-down from a friend who’d just upgraded to the 3G/3GS.