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This is undoubtedly a positive move, though I do not believe it will be enough to satisfy the likes of the credit card companies. They are requiring ID verification (i.e. that you're 18 or over) to upload content. As much as I am privacy-minded, the idea that someone could upload an explicit video to Pornhub without verifying that they were 18 is mind-boggling. This is also a net positive for content producers on Por…

If anyone should be holding them to account, it should be the courts and / or society. Credit card companies shouldn't be able to play judge, jury and executioner. If our laws are insufficient to deal with the problem of major tube sites, we can enact new ones.

Related: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/12/visa-and-mastercard-ar...

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It's surprising to me (perhaps shouldn't be) how many people here are discussing this issue in the abstract using terms like "broadly harmless." To these commenters: are you unaware of the issue of child porn, revenge porn, stolen content* and videos of actual rapes being uploaded to Pornhub, and Pornhub making money off of this content? If you are aware of this (the core issue), you should be grappling with these is…

How common is child porn on there? There have certainly been some horrifying cases. But, how common is it? How fast is it being taken down? And how long ago are the incidents being referenced? PornHub has done a lot in the past year to crack-down on problematic content, even before the purge. He focuses a lot on "things promoted towards pedophiles". But, he admits on many occasions, that the vast majority of the cont…

How common is child pornon there?

Given PornHub's actions, it seems not even they could given an confident answer to that question. PornHub may have stepped up its efforts but it has been mostly a reactive response to media pressure (which has been mounting), not a proactive one.

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> that was exactly Youtube's recipe for success Disagree. ContentID was a proprietary tech for content recognition that made YouTube not get inundated with copyrighted material. YT is successful because they handled the issue, not because they didn't.

YouTube was successful long before ContentID. Perhaps they managed to stay successful by handling the issue, but their initial success was certainly not due to handling the issue.

I think we agree on the fundamentals here. YouTube was able to keep growing past a certain point due to contentID

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The result is not the same either. The described infanticide serves a goal of undoing other gene’s reproduction. Abortion is a smarter form of not spending resources on a weak/dead-end offspring (or just throwing it out of nest), if you want these analogies.

Would you condone the post-birth infanticide of a weak/dead-end offspring as a smarter form of not spending resource someone probably does not have ?

I’m not talking morals here and not arguing for or against abortion. Our morals have nothing to do with competition infanticide in mammals vs abortion diff.

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Ive personally taken dozens of reports where people were 100% sure and disgusted, even from some moderators who were supposed to know more about this - and it turned out the people were all over 18. anecdotal indeed.

I'm sure we can find stories on both sides of this argument. I lived in South East Asia for a while and the cell phone footage of sexual interactions between middle school students is what I reported. These are girls wearing middle school uniforms embroidered with the school's name on the shirt [1] which indicates that the woman is under 18. Nobody would bother to replicate the uniform for 2 minutes of shaky cell pho…

How long was ex-boyfriends sentence?

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It would be interesting to know how many of these vehement anti-child-pornography activists people are secretly pedophiles themselves, just like it was shown to be true for homophobes.

This is Jung's "shadow". We despise that which we're afraid to acknowledge in ourselves.

I think there is much more hatred for "child" pornography because it is completely natural for humans to be attracted to post-pubescent humans, because biology. But they are also classified as "children" arbitrarily and this "wisdom" is widely accepted and hence the natural attraction shadowed. It is then projected on to celebrities or criminals when they are caught.

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When you're being accused of distributing child pornography, I think this transcends the "there's no such thing as bad publicity" adage...

It would be interesting to know how many of these vehement anti-child-pornography activists people are secretly pedophiles themselves, just like it was shown to be true for homophobes.

Posing as an "anti-pedophile" would be a good way for a pedophile to deflect attention away from themselves, or as a way for them to project the negative feelings they receive outwards.

There have been cases where child rights advocates have been arrested for multiple counts of child rape. I don't think every activist is one, or even most. They probably genuinely feel for the victims, and their suffering.

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Yeah, but obesity doesn't destroy your ability to function in society. Would you rather have obese parents, or alcoholic parents?

I'd rather have parents who looked at porn occasionally in the privacy of their own homes...

maybe their room ?

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You do realize the success of the platforms is the result of finding legal loopholes. That's the innovation. What if we are a media publisher but than without worker rights and unions? Youtube. What if we start a hotel franchise but without any regulation or oversight or liability? Airbnb. What if we start a cab company but make all our employees independent contractors, ignore all regulations and put all liability a…

>> We go out of our way to engineer protocols and technology and platforms that make it impossible to do that the right thing (by design). From p2p networks in the 90ties to crypto currencies. From YouTube to Spotify. I don't understand this bit. So are you saying crypto currencies are making it impossible to do the right thing? If so, what do you mean by that?

>So are you saying crypto currencies are making it impossible to do the right thing?

Cryptocurrencies are designed to subvert regulation and oversight. That's the selling point. That current societal infrastructure to protect innocent (sometimes gullible) people from everything from weapons trade or pyramid schemes.

If you want to 'make it do the right thing', thats already exists and is your wallet. Thats called money. A ledger with a tax identity. A bank account that requires a legal id. There is no point in burning all this electricity to verify those hashes, except to circumvent regulation and law.

I can't start a pyramid scheme and steal money from gullable idiots. Thankfully, an ICO is completely legal (for now). If you want to sell bread to hungry people, use money. If you want to sell guns to a hitman, use a cryptocurrency. Thats why cryptocurrencies are economically viable compared to money. Because they make it harder to apply the laws we voted on democratically, like how you can't sell children for sex.

The reason any money out there is investing into cryptocurrency technology, is because of the expectation of moral subserversion of society. Its a not a side effect. Its the bussiness model.

What do you think Venture Capital considers some startups worth so much money? Because they see the potential of price dumping and becoming a monopolist. If markets were actually properly regulated to always keep competition alive, people wouldn't be investing millions into apps and websites, they would be investing in actual R&D and hard science.

But doing the real work, can never compete, with just plain cheating. You always make more money being the bad guy. Even if a lot of startups have sincere intentions (Facebooks' mission was to connect people, not destroy democracy), the money will chase the decision down.

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