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Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by jen729w »

a3w wrote: post #133
m463 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Awesome privacy policy! https://johnnydecimal.com/privacy/

Looks not valid in terms of GDPR. What are my rights and in which paragraph are those rights stated? How long is data stored? Which log files of my visit arise (just my IP and date of visit? Who hosts that site, if it's not a machine you physically own? Do they store that data? More data, like browser or OS version?) You are usually allowed to use that data for debugging and intrusion detection etc. but you still nee…

Mate, it’s a website. You come, you read it, you leave. Next you’ll want a GDPR policy for your library book.

If that privacy policy doesn’t make it screamingly obvious that I’m not tracking you in any way then holy moly I don’t know what to do.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by jen729w »

b0afc375b5 wrote: post #156
jen729w wrote: post #40

Well, this was bound to happen one day. This is my site. I guess I’ll read the comments here then go take a bath with a bottle of gin. :-) Edit: yep. As suspected. Let me just say this, if I may: 1. You don’t have to like every idea, but please consider that some people do . 2. I’ve been using this successfully for a decade. I’m using it right now to organise a project. My boss loves me for it, because guess what? We…

Hi, I'm currently reading the site/guide, my question is, how viable is this for organizing personal files? Is this strictly for business only? I'm currently doing a personal files reorg and this hackernews post came in perfect timing.

100%, it’s what I do.

Also on my to-do list: get a few example structures up there. But drop me a mail and I’ll send you my home structure for inspiration. hello the domain.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by jen729w »

chipsa wrote: post #117

Something jen729w doesn't talk about, but possibly should: if you have two categories that have similar things in them, have the same IDs in both. For example, I'm a low level manager. I've got an area for admin paperwork. One category is Me, other categories are for each of my subordinates. Each of those has a ID for annual performance reports. So mine is 11.01. My subordinates are all 12.01/13.01/14.01. This may re…

Repeating your IDs is very powerful indeed.

This system started when I ran a dance production. We were touring to multiple venues in multiple states, but they all have ticketing, seating plans, merch sales, etc.

I can still remember that system and I literally haven’t looked at it in ten years.

- 40-49 Venues

  - 41 Melbourne, VIC

    - 41.01 Tickets

    - 41.02 Seating plan

    - ...etc.

  - 42 Sydney, NSW

    - 42.01 Tickets

    - etc...
And yes, I also have dabbled with category A0, A1 etc. I’d rather not, but you’re right, there are edge cases where it’ll work.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by jen729w »

OJFord wrote: post #154
blakesterz wrote: post #3

I assume see also and/or inspired by good the ol' Dewey Decimal System? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dewey_Decimal_classes You probably don't know much about Dewey, he's got a pretty "interesting" life story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melvil_Dewey "At the June 2019 conference of the American Library Association the Council voted to remove Dewey's name from its top honor, the Melvil Dewey Medal; the resol…

I wonder when it was created in his name? Given: > He resigned from the American Library Association due to allegations of sexual harassment, racism, and antisemitism in 1905.

I’m not a historian, my friend. Dewey’s kinda famous, my mate basically said it out loud one day, my name is Johnny, the system has a decimal in it, boom, that was it. At the time I was the only person using it and the idea of a website was years away. Let’s not read too much in to it eh.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by jen729w »

drcongo wrote: post #129

Here's the counter argument: https://heyluddite.com/post/4043411544/how-to-name-folders

Oh, wow. And 9 years old. Thanks for showing me this.

People do just naturally put numbers in front of things, though, and I’m convinced it’s to solve the muscle-memory issue. Or it’s that I generally work with nerds and we find it easier to remember that our folder is 34 in the list of 67 rather than remembering that it’s ‘SQL designs’ or whatever.

I mean literally back at a major bank 15 years ago the root structure just had numbers in front of every folder. Long before I meddled with it.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by jen729w »

tuatoru wrote: post #131
jen729w wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(I'm the eponymous 'Johnny'.) I don't find tags useful for many of the same reasons that I invented this system. What's the tag for the payroll schedule? Is it 'Payroll'? 'Finance'? Something else? Who manages the tags? Can anyone add one? Tags need managing just as much as -- if not more than -- a well-organised folder structure. Tags aren't just some free magical way to organise stuff ... otherwise I dare say they'…

Some observations, and thanks: - "What is the tag?" is a category error. It's "what are the tags?" Tags are not paths. Is it Payroll? Yes. Is it Finance? Yes, if that's how your org does things. Is it other things besides? Yes. A "superseded" tag would likely be useful to many organisations. The idea of tags as opposed to paths is that a leaf object can have lots of them. Of course tags are not free. The question is,…

> The Johnny Decimal website is silent on the subject of stewardship. Here I want to focus on two aspects: keeping things working, and managing succession.

An error I intend to correct! On sufficiently large projects I believe you need a ‘librarian’ who has ownership of the system. I’ll expand on this on the site eventually.

Ah, if only I didn’t have an actual job. :-/

> We have had two generations of office workers who have never experienced properly functioning filing systems

This sentiment inspired the opening paragraphs of the site. We literally used to have people - women - called ‘administrators’. Their job would be to file things so that people could find them again. Then we all got a computer, the number of files exploded 100x, and we pretended like we could just search for what we needed.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by jen729w »

otterpro wrote: post #153

I have been using johnydecimal system as a basis to organize the folders in my computer for past few years, and the main area category ie buckets are ordered by priority/importance. My main bucket directories kinda look like this: * 10/11 notes/ * 10/11 notes/11.01 notes/ (... all my text notes) + (I usually use a shortcut / alias of `notes` since it is the most frequently accessed directory) * 10/11 notes/11.02 onen…

I love the idea and congratulate you on its execution, but I’d discourage others from trying the same, at least initially. The problem is that you have analysis-paralysis. You worry that you’ll make your 40-49 folder then realise that you missed something and want to re-arrange.

In most situations — you’ve found an exception — it’s better to think about it a bit but then just start. The numbers have no meaning, even if that doesn’t tickle my neatness gene quite as much as it might. ;-)

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by catchmeifyoucan »

jen729w wrote: post #88
catchmeifyoucan wrote: post #58

I’m working on Amna (getamna.com) which lets you organize things into a todo list. Search is definitely a problem, and should not be our primary way of getting to things - especially if we know where they live already (or supposed to live). With a todo list - we make the lookup a little easier because you can ask yourself “what was I working on”?

This looks cool, there's a bunch of ideas here that are similar to scribbled notes on my wall! I really like the idea of 'everything related to one task in one place'. What I'm planning on doing with the app I'm (trying to) write is extend this to make sense of the fact that your task is in a JD category and might therefore be related to other tasks in the same category. So I'm looking at `11.01 Some item` and it has…

That makes sense! I think context is a really big thing. If you could "merge" things together, that is super cool. Then you can relate two ideas together. Similar to Roam Research.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by jen729w »

spondyl wrote: post #108
jen729w wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I needed to hear that, thank you. <3

I'd love to know if you have any tips on your images like were they preprocessed or scaled down? They're really well done and still high quality despite loading quick?

Okay so the pain I had was taking retina screenshots and having them show up in retina resolution.

The site is written in MDX and then `gatsby-plugin-mdx` does the heavy lifting. What I could not get to work was Markdown formatting for inline images, especially not for smaller images. They always ended up being shown at 2x.

So now it's just an image, imported in to the file at the top, and displayed further down.

    import outlook_folder_structure_1232_expanded from "./Outlook__folder-structure-12-32-expanded-min.png"
And then just a straight `As for making them sharp and small, they're just screenshots from my Mac run through one of the many online PNG resizers. From memory that gave me a file with a 78% saving and if it wasn't near magic then I couldn't tell you how it did it because there was zero difference to my eye. I can't remember which one I used, just try a few.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by _pjoi »

jen729w wrote: post #165
drcongo wrote: post #129

Here's the counter argument: https://heyluddite.com/post/4043411544/how-to-name-folders

Oh, wow. And 9 years old. Thanks for showing me this. People do just naturally put numbers in front of things, though, and I’m convinced it’s to solve the muscle-memory issue. Or it’s that I generally work with nerds and we find it easier to remember that our folder is 34 in the list of 67 rather than remembering that it’s ‘SQL designs’ or whatever. I mean literally back at a major bank 15 years ago the root structur…

FWIW, I've seen a number of financial systems, and even though accounts in the hierarchy might have names, they often have a hierarchically-oriented number with them.

e.g. Accounts Receivable #15000, A/R for Foo Corp #15001 and so on.

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