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Re: FTC issues orders to nine social media and video streaming services

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I would love to read YouTube’s big reveal on how they are targeting children. It does not take an expert to see it. Just search up any kids shows and wait for the ads to come in. Should kids be targeted by any ads? I don’t know but feel probably they shouldn’t. But even if they should be shown ads I highly question the type of ads I have seen while watching shows with my kids. Honestly I can’t think of a single example ad off the top of my head but while watching clearly kids shows have seen enough that I have often thought “what the hell youtube”. A part of me believes they want the ads to be offensive to the parent so they consider the premium account.

Re: FTC issues orders to nine social media and video streaming services

#102

This is heartening news. We are finally approaching the moment where addictive social media is handled with the same seriousness with which big tobacco was treated.

It's funny to think that people might look back at how much time and attention people from 2010 to 2020 spent on their device and think how backwards we were. Like how "dumb" past generations were for putting lead in gasoline.

In future, the caricature of our time will be people blindly stumbling around while pressing small hunks of metal and plastic against their faces.

Re: FTC issues orders to nine social media and video streaming services

#103

Transparency coming? How about if I see an ad I should be allowed to see who bought the ad? How about how they chose to target me? Is it because of my race or interests or gender or age? How about the option to opt out? How about the option to configure your future ad targets / attributes? How about no special black box algorithms? Past the addiction issues, how can these exist while guaranteeing no racial and other…

Yes please.

I’d like to add: no targeting of any kind for political ads - you wanna say something? You have to say it to everyone.

Re: FTC issues orders to nine social media and video streaming services

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>how social media and video streaming services collect, use, track, estimate, or derive personal and demographic information; Facebook can definitely figure out your race , and the race of who you've dated. I told this story here before but back in the early days of facebook, I had dated a Korean girl for a brief period of time and then the moment we broke up via facebook messenger, I start getting spammed with ads f…

I don't think you need to be Trump or a Trump supporter to find personalized ads offensive and unwelcome. I think there's pretty bipartisan agreement it's getting a little out of hand. For instance, when I was under 21, I often got ads for alcoholic beverages, even though those services knew my exact date of birth. Why was I given those ads? At the time I had no way of learning why.

The example you give seems to be an ad that wasn't sufficiently personalized. Was that also "offensive and unwelcome"?

Everyone should just use uBlock Origin and be done with it.

Re: FTC issues orders to nine social media and video streaming services

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Something big is brewing. I think there is going to be a big push to reign in social media. I've thought long about this and can only think of one way to regulate them. I would propose that people are allowed x degrees of separation. As a regular user I can only go n+2 connections. After that the content is not seen no matter how popular. It will kill virility but should reign in stupidity being broadcast. To increas…

I've always thought that their algorithms are the biggest problems - when someone else gets to choose what you see. (That's also why I think it's far to go after their common carrier status if they do this.)

It would be better to be able to manage your own feed, things like chronological order, filtering, etc.

Re: FTC issues orders to nine social media and video streaming services

#107

Why did they decide to loop in Discord? If this is about targeted ads the Microsoft should have been included, tired of all the spyware on Windows 10.

Maybe they think Discord will provide an example of proper corporate behavior, so they'll have answers for the "but we have to make money somehow!" and "everybody's doing it!" canards.

Re: FTC issues orders to nine social media and video streaming services

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post #3

Something big is brewing. I think there is going to be a big push to reign in social media. I've thought long about this and can only think of one way to regulate them. I would propose that people are allowed x degrees of separation. As a regular user I can only go n+2 connections. After that the content is not seen no matter how popular. It will kill virility but should reign in stupidity being broadcast. To increas…

Personally I'd like to go back to an age before social media. It seems social media has had limited substantive success for anyone and has really created more problems than it's worth. Historically I've avoided expressing my views on abolishment but now people are trying to develop fear-mongering strategies around decentralization, so here I am back at abolition. I'd love to find a happy medium but I don't think it's…

Does this count as social media? If yes, why should we abolish hacker news? If no, What is your definition of "social media"?

Re: FTC issues orders to nine social media and video streaming services

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post #3

Something big is brewing. I think there is going to be a big push to reign in social media. I've thought long about this and can only think of one way to regulate them. I would propose that people are allowed x degrees of separation. As a regular user I can only go n+2 connections. After that the content is not seen no matter how popular. It will kill virility but should reign in stupidity being broadcast. To increas…

> I would propose that people are allowed x degrees of separation. That's an absolutely terrible idea. For example, I doubt you and I are two degrees away. I would have never seen this. I doubt I have two degrees of separation from most of the interesting content posted on this site.

Exactly, if you restrict access based on degrees of separation, you're essentially restricting access to information by geography, which is sure to reinforce regional differences and radicalize people further by hiding dissenting opinions

Re: FTC issues orders to nine social media and video streaming services

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And this is happening under Trump folks. He doesn't seem to be making a fuss of it either way, and he's probably had enough time to install his folks in the FTC, so I wonder what/if there's a political angle to this. There is literally no mention of 'FTC' on either CNN or Fox landing pages right now, which is a little disturbing given the days events. If someone has material information to add about the real backgrou…

...either CNN or Fox...

You'll notice they've also neglected to mention the 250M people on strike in India right now and for the last several weeks. Certain reports do not harmonize with the corporate narrative.

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