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Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by teolandon »

bobthechef wrote: post #363

Porn is harmless? To make that claim shows either bad faith or profound ignorance. Porn is incredibly harmful and degrading, both to those who perform on it as well as those who watch it. Nevermind the child porn, sex trafficking, or the blatantly non-consensual stuff, porn itself is gravely immoral and incredibly destructive. It hurts a person’s ability to have a healthy relationship. It creates obsessions and addic…

FOH with your puritanical bullshit. There's no such thing as "sexual depravity". You don't get to define what is a vice and what isn't. Porn does not lead to a totalitarian regime. If anything, looking at history, the more authoritarian the state, the more it limits sexuality in the population.

You can have fun and also "live according to the truth", whatever that means.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by hfkldjsjfkdj »

whatever1 wrote: post #362
sequoia wrote: post #340

It's surprising to me (perhaps shouldn't be) how many people here are discussing this issue in the abstract using terms like "broadly harmless." To these commenters: are you unaware of the issue of child porn, revenge porn, stolen content* and videos of actual rapes being uploaded to Pornhub, and Pornhub making money off of this content? If you are aware of this (the core issue), you should be grappling with these is…

The internet hosts all of the above. Let's shut it down.

So all or nothing? What's wrong with some regulation especially when this will affect other sites as well.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by twblalock »

miracle2k wrote: post #78
Bootvis wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you consider it a hit piece? The main allegation that illegal content was on PornHub is based on facts, right?

Illegal content is on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit. The question is if and when it is removed. There are people accusing all of those sites of irresponsibility when it comes to moderating. But roughly, there seems to be no strong evidence that Pornhub did not remove illegal content they became aware of. More generally, the question is if a porn-site that allows anyone to upload stuff should be legally viable. You may fe…

> But roughly, there seems to be no strong evidence that Pornhub did not remove illegal content they became aware of.

It's delusional to think that Pornhub did not know about this content. They only cared when the credit card companies threatened to withhold payments.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by mtVessel »

wittyreference wrote: post #127
TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #62

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Genuine question: how do you scale content moderation to millions of posts without hiring millions of workers at astronomical cost (who can make mistakes, like we’ve seen with DMCA take down notices, YouTube censorship when not justified, AppStore censorship,even GitHub made these mistakes, etc... some of these mistakes ruin peoples’ livelihoods). Is there a “right way” to do this that protects everyone?

If a business can't run profitably and legally at scale, then that business model is a bad fit for that scale and shouldn't exist at that scale (presuming the laws in question are reasonable, which I think 'banning child porn' qualifies as.) It's super weird that people seem to constantly start from the premise of, "But their business couldn't possibly [comply with law] profitably at scale! Oh well. I guess until som…

> Imagine if pharma companies went "gosh, but hiring quality inspectors to make sure all of our drugs are untainted just doesn't scale!"

What do you mean, "imagine?" They do say that[1], and it's a tremendous problem.

[1] https://www.newsweek.com/2019/07/19/bottle-x-exposing-impuri...

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by whatever1 »

hfkldjsjfkdj wrote: post #392
whatever1 wrote: post #362

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The internet hosts all of the above. Let's shut it down.

So all or nothing? What's wrong with some regulation especially when this will affect other sites as well.

Exactly my point. Submit take-down requests and if the site owner does comply, then enforce penalties. But this is not the case we are discussing here. Here the site was sentenced to death regardless of its compliance.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by approxim8ion »

alacombe wrote: post #283
astrange wrote: post #148

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You might want to see a therapist?

What has to be wrong with MGTOW, and why should men be forced in social interaction if they do not want to ?

Let's not conflate MGTOW, at its core a hateful ideology based on misinformation, with basic introversion.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by PunchTornado »

therealdrag0 wrote: post #379
PunchTornado wrote: post #361

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Revenge porn, rapes and other bad stuff are being uploaded to Facebook and Google too and they make money out of it Pornhub's official position, like Facebook and Google, is to have AI algos and teams of moderators to manually remove such content. (According to the article, Pornhub only had 118 incidences of child porn over the last 3 years whereas Facebook had 84 million incidents of child porn during the same time)

Are you sure that doesn't imply Facebook is being more diligent about catching it. Or the samples on facebook are easier to screen for?

it was done by a third party organisation

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by PunchTornado »

DougN7 wrote: post #374
PunchTornado wrote: post #368

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yep, the same with google and facebook.

So what is your point? Two wrongs don’t make a right.

you shouldn't arbitrarily target only some companies. my point is that facebook/google are the worst when it comes to revenge porn as it's easier to destroy someones' life there.

But for some reason, instead of focusing on facebook, they focus on pornhub because it is an easy target and easy to say we've done something.

Re: Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform

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Post by astrange »

alacombe wrote: post #283
astrange wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to see a therapist?

What has to be wrong with MGTOW, and why should men be forced in social interaction if they do not want to ?

They never seem happy about it. The people who are happy about this kind of thing are called something else (aro, schizoid, monks…).

Besides, this seems like a paranoid personality disorder.

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