It would be awesome if they could test with Ryzen 5900x because the single core speed was greatly increased with it. That said, I still think the m1 would beat it.
Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Development
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#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
What utter nonsense. Different ARM chips aren't "somewhat compatible" anymore than Intel/AMD x86 chips. It's a standard instruction set. And even if we'd get different instruction sets, we have much better toolchains/compilers to work with multiple architectures now than we did in "the home computing landscape of the 80s / early 90s" (GCC and LLVM aren't really comparable to Sinclair Basic). The M1 has been out for a…
I thought the m1 has dedicated js instructions.
It's just part of the ARM instruction set.
Re: Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Development
#263I'm hesitant to buy a first gen product, but I really want to hop on top this bandwagon especially, since I needed a new computer last month.
It’s rumoured that they’re going to redesign the MBPs. I’m curious to see how they are going to improve the cooling system.
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#264Considering that Apple won't sell their chips to anybody else, and the M2, M3, Mn could be increasingly faster than the x86 chips, how long before we start moving along this path? 1. Amazon, Google, Microsoft start building their own chips for their own clouds. The most efficient chip could translate into the cheapest cloud, or the fastest one at the same price. Their choice. 2. There will be N somewhat compatible AR…
It has nothing to do with their architecture. Here are the facts: The M1 is a 5nm chip, while the i9 is a 14nm chip! The M1 has about 16b transistor, the i9 has only about half of that amount. No surprise the M1 is faster. Most credit should go to TSMC for being able to manufacture 5nm chips.
> It has nothing to do with their architecture.
That it has zero to do with the architecture is a bold assertion (and seems unlikely).
In any event Apple would not have been able to manufacture / buy an x86 on 5nm so the architecture has quite a lot of influence on the performance of the latest Apple laptops.
Re: Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Development
#265Considering that Apple won't sell their chips to anybody else, and the M2, M3, Mn could be increasingly faster than the x86 chips, how long before we start moving along this path? 1. Amazon, Google, Microsoft start building their own chips for their own clouds. The most efficient chip could translate into the cheapest cloud, or the fastest one at the same price. Their choice. 2. There will be N somewhat compatible AR…
You’ll just be developing remotely. Amazon has had graviton for a while. Google has had TPUs you can use online but can’t buy locally.
What makes you think you’d have to have a local laptop? In fact, it’s in every behemoth’s interest to keep the good hardware managed and let the plebs work remotely using inferior technology.
Re: Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Development
#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
What utter nonsense. Different ARM chips aren't "somewhat compatible" anymore than Intel/AMD x86 chips. It's a standard instruction set. And even if we'd get different instruction sets, we have much better toolchains/compilers to work with multiple architectures now than we did in "the home computing landscape of the 80s / early 90s" (GCC and LLVM aren't really comparable to Sinclair Basic). The M1 has been out for a…
I thought the m1 has dedicated js instructions.
Where'd you get that from?
The m1 _does_ have one weird non-ARM extension; it can adopt an x86 memory model on demand.
Re: Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Development
#267Phoronix did a similar set of benchmarks with comparable results.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=apple-ma...
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#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
>There will be N somewhat compatible ARM chips, that is to say they are somewhat incompatible. This isn't how ARM's architecture license works. All ARM implementations are required to pass the same standard test suite. >Architectural licensees get a set of specs and a testing suite that they have to pass, the rest is up to them. If they want to make a processor that is faster, slower, more efficient, smaller, or anyt…
Sure, for the instruction set all the CPUs are required to be compatible. However, Apple seems to be going in the direction of having many many hardware accelerators builtin to their SoC and integrated into their software ecosystem. I assume that if Google and Amazon were to build their own chips, they'd do the same. Those accelerators will not be intercompatible, and we'll have a dozen different vendored drivers, li…
> However, Apple seems to be going in the direction of having many many hardware accelerators builtin to their SoC and integrated into their software ecosystem
I mean, so have Intel and AMD, for decades.
Re: Apple M1 vs. Ryzen 3900X vs. Intel I9 in Software Development
#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
What utter nonsense. Different ARM chips aren't "somewhat compatible" anymore than Intel/AMD x86 chips. It's a standard instruction set. And even if we'd get different instruction sets, we have much better toolchains/compilers to work with multiple architectures now than we did in "the home computing landscape of the 80s / early 90s" (GCC and LLVM aren't really comparable to Sinclair Basic). The M1 has been out for a…
I thought the m1 has dedicated js instructions.
It's got better/more floating point capacity, which makes it faster at JS because all the numbers in JS are floating point number.