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World’s biggest iceberg heads for disaster

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Re: World’s biggest iceberg heads for disaster

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's unfortunate. I liked the elegance of such a brutish potential solution. I know this definitely sounds dumb and juvenile, but I genuinely wish more problems could be solved with bombs.

Surely you’re familiar with the exploding whale story, but if not: https://youtu.be/V6CLumsir34

Or Project Plowshare

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare

Re: World’s biggest iceberg heads for disaster

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I know this can potentially sound very stupid given the actual size, but can't we bomb it (target specific parts with a lot of firepower) in an attempt to break it up if it poses such a danger to actual wildlife if it collides/approaches the island? The ocean then potentially will carry some of the pieces away and miss the island?

This thing is the size of Jamaica with a draft of 200m (and so a height of more than that). It would take multiple nuclear weapons to do it any real kind of damage.

Presumably same issues as nuking hurricanes :) https://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd-faq/#hurricane-mitigation

Re: World’s biggest iceberg heads for disaster

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Beautiful page, but I still don't get why it's a big deal? Iceberg gets stuck next to an island - surely it won't completely envelop it. The map shows the island is dotted with penguins breeding grounds so not all are going to be blocked, probably way less than half even. In the area where it will drag on the seabed some of the life will be probably destroyed, but this area can't be very large compared to the size of the island.

I mean it would be better if it doesn't happen but compared to the other climate catastrophes we're facing this doesn't seem very serious. Surely, penguins can deal with some floating ice?

Re: World’s biggest iceberg heads for disaster

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post #15

Beautiful page, but I still don't get why it's a big deal? Iceberg gets stuck next to an island - surely it won't completely envelop it. The map shows the island is dotted with penguins breeding grounds so not all are going to be blocked, probably way less than half even. In the area where it will drag on the seabed some of the life will be probably destroyed, but this area can't be very large compared to the size of…

The article explains several other effects to wildlife that you are skipping over. Namely, disruption to coastal food chain by melting freshwater, and the longer round trip for penguins feeding their chicks.

> Surely, penguins can deal with some floating ice?

some floating ice ?? The "beautiful page" has plenty of diagrams explaining the extent of this ice. It is the size of Jamaica. The largest floating ice object in recorded history.

Re: World’s biggest iceberg heads for disaster

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post #4

I know this can potentially sound very stupid given the actual size, but can't we bomb it (target specific parts with a lot of firepower) in an attempt to break it up if it poses such a danger to actual wildlife if it collides/approaches the island? The ocean then potentially will carry some of the pieces away and miss the island?

This thing is the size of Jamaica with a draft of 200m (and so a height of more than that). It would take multiple nuclear weapons to do it any real kind of damage.

I know the article makes the Jamaica comparison. But the iceberg is 4200km sq and Jamaica is 10000km sq.

Re: World’s biggest iceberg heads for disaster

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post #15

Beautiful page, but I still don't get why it's a big deal? Iceberg gets stuck next to an island - surely it won't completely envelop it. The map shows the island is dotted with penguins breeding grounds so not all are going to be blocked, probably way less than half even. In the area where it will drag on the seabed some of the life will be probably destroyed, but this area can't be very large compared to the size of…

The iceberg is very large, so even if it doesn't envelop the island it could create a detour of up to 140km between a penguin and its feeding waters, a 280km addition to every trip - and that's only if it has access to satellite images to plan its route. On the surface, that penguin would only see a huge wall of ice with no indication which way would be shorter.

Re: World’s biggest iceberg heads for disaster

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South Georgia Island is where Shackleton and his small crew landed, intentionally, in a storm using only dead reckoning in a lashed together boat, then did a never-before attempted 36 hour wintertime crossing over the island from the remote side to the populated side in the dead of winter.

They had to do this because their exploration ship, the Endurance, got crushed and sank as they attempted (again) to trek to the south pole.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/shackleton/1914/timeline.html

One of the most amazing things about it is there are a lot of photographs from the ordeal. Despite barely getting off the ice floes and having a low chance of living, they carried with them hundreds of pounds of glass photographic exposures. Why? Because if they lived, publication rights of their stories and the photographs were necessary to pay off the debt they incurred in undertaking the mission.

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