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Re: Johnny.Decimal

#141
post #40

Well, this was bound to happen one day. This is my site. I guess I’ll read the comments here then go take a bath with a bottle of gin. :-) Edit: yep. As suspected. Let me just say this, if I may: 1. You don’t have to like every idea, but please consider that some people do . 2. I’ve been using this successfully for a decade. I’m using it right now to organise a project. My boss loves me for it, because guess what? We…

Really great site! Uncluttered and easy to follow.

I have one question: is there JD best practice on how to handle file sets that are generated frequently and in large-ish numbers? I’m thinking specifically of camera image files. My current approach is to have a directory per year, and then subdirectories (with a YYYMMDD-subject name) for each distinct shoot (typically between 30 and 50) in that year, together containing between 5000 and 20000 new images (depending on how many shoots I do). I maintain a parallel folder structure for the processed images. My current thinking is to keep this photo-library as-is, but put all of my ‘normal’ files into a JD structure.

By the way, and picking up memetherapy’s comment, I’ve also experienced knowledge management problems in large corporations for which JD would be a great answer. The last place I worked moved several years ago from a ‘classic’ system based on servers and file systems to a system based upon numerous per-project sharepoint sites. It didn’t help that the template for the sites was developed from a project lifecycle perspective and had about 70 folders covering every stage from initiating a bid to project shutdown. There was pretty-much a single ‘dev’ folder for the actual work, that techies like myself inevitably populated in inconsistent ways. Something that was never resolved was that all of these silos made searching for old reports, etc really really hard and fundamentally broke knowledge management in the company. Especially when most of the silos had per-project access permissions.

On the point made elsewhere about tagging, in my experience it is extremely hard to get people across a large company to add metadata to content, let alone do it consistently.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

#142
post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does feel entertaining to read the comments from people who have so obviously never worked for a large (or old) organisation doing an admin related job who think that spotlight or fuzzy search will save them. In a previous job I had to respond to freedom of information requests for a public sector organisation with more than 20,000 employees, which meant deep diving different departments shared drives and shared i…

> good luck finding a system that can search dozens of silo'd shared drives for info in .pdf and .doc files https://www.google.com/search?q=ediscovery+software

or you know could spend 0 pence on something and just organise your folders

Re: Johnny.Decimal

#143
post #40

Well, this was bound to happen one day. This is my site. I guess I’ll read the comments here then go take a bath with a bottle of gin. :-) Edit: yep. As suspected. Let me just say this, if I may: 1. You don’t have to like every idea, but please consider that some people do . 2. I’ve been using this successfully for a decade. I’m using it right now to organise a project. My boss loves me for it, because guess what? We…

> I’ve been using this successfully for a decade.

Given how the system is setup, I find this amusing in a meta-way.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

#144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. I like the idea of JD very much - and I've been meaning to reorganize my notes by it, but can't ever get started on it - so there's very little of value I can add to conversation beyond an upvote. On GP's: > My guess is the cynics are the ones who usually comment while people who are more positive will probably be more likely to just upvote? It irks me to see this comment pattern regularly being called out…

>> My guess is the cynics are the ones who usually comment while people who are more positive will probably be more likely to just upvote? > It irks me to see this comment pattern regularly being called out as "HN specific" I've heard this general rule vocalized on social media as "Fans like, haters comment". If you get loads of upvotes for an idea and a lot of flack, those pushing back is not your audience and can s…

Haters also downvote, making the upvotes effectively invisible.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

#145
post #87

Regarding the bash script [0] to jump to Johnny Decimal directories, you can also use the CDPATH feature that's built into bash (and other POSIX shells, including dash and zsh) so that you can jump directly to a category using the normal `cd` command, with tab completion: $ CDPATH=$(find /path/to/cjd/* -maxdepth 0 -type d -print0 | xargs -0 printf "%s:") $ cd 34[tab] $ cd 34\ Events\34.[tab] 34.18 Product Launch 34.1…

Would you mind if I (eventually) put this up on the site? This is gold. Happy to link it back to this comment or any other profile you send my way.

Go for it! CDPATH is an underrated tool.

You can do a simpler version and just set

  CDPATH=/path/to/cjd
but then you'd have to tab through the e.g. "30-39" index directories first.

Or you could change the path in the find command to

  /path/to/cjd/*/*
and go to the final xx.yy directories directly, but it hardly saves you any keystrokes when you use tab completition.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

#146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> My guess is the cynics are the ones who usually comment while people who are more positive will probably be more likely to just upvote? > It irks me to see this comment pattern regularly being called out as "HN specific" I've heard this general rule vocalized on social media as "Fans like, haters comment". If you get loads of upvotes for an idea and a lot of flack, those pushing back is not your audience and can s…

Haters also downvote, making the upvotes effectively invisible.

Yeah, downvotes are weird in that way. Comment sections that marks posts and comments with more downvotes than upvotes as "low quality" also seem to encourage "pile-on" behavior.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

#147
It would be super nice if this concept would come with a couple of templates validated by years of experience how to organize this.

In my previous org we did this but had a couple of things which were hard to file:

- Where to put templates (letters, powerpoints to be used by more than one department/function). Is it marketing or communication or management?

- Should we put products or processes on top-level?

- How to split access control?

- How to archive (old/backup folders)?

Re: Johnny.Decimal

#149
I organize my folders with 2 ~ 4 letter prefixes:

/[CO] My Company/[OR] Organizations/[GOOG] Google/

I then put these prefixes in front of my files:

COORGOOGINV-20201214 Some Invoice.pdf

The number of prefix characters should be consistent within each folder of course.

I might sometimes add other tags:

COORGOOGINV-20201214 Some Invoice [No 345750][E 87][Payed].pdf

Re: Johnny.Decimal

#150
post #56

How about a filesystem that just provided tagging as a first class citizen?

(I'm the eponymous 'Johnny'.) I don't find tags useful for many of the same reasons that I invented this system. What's the tag for the payroll schedule? Is it 'Payroll'? 'Finance'? Something else? Who manages the tags? Can anyone add one? Tags need managing just as much as -- if not more than -- a well-organised folder structure. Tags aren't just some free magical way to organise stuff ... otherwise I dare say they'…

Sorry if the comment came off as critical to what you've done; it was not meant to be. I just find the ability to tag data to be useful for organization and discoverability and I find it interesting that in 2020 there's no widely used file systems that have it out of the box.
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