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WavesMesh: Pay-what-you-can community-owned ISP for Baltimore

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Re: WavesMesh: Pay-what-you-can community-owned ISP for Baltimore

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

elliebike wrote: post #29
Zeing0Ch wrote: post #21

This should be illegal, how could private enterprises possibly compete with community organized ISPs? You have to take into account the increase in profit every ISP has to make every year. How is the industry going to survive if you allow competition from ISP's that do not need to make profit? Many cities are already making this illegal, hopefully Baltimore realizes how damaging this truly is for business.

Is this satire? I'm genuinely confused.

It clearly is with this line:

> You have to take into account the increase in profit every ISP has to make every year

Not profit every year, but _increase_ in profit every year.

Re: WavesMesh: Pay-what-you-can community-owned ISP for Baltimore

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Post by digdugdirk »

Would it be possible to add a blockchain (/blockchain-like) layer to a network like this that is tied to your node's provided throughput?

I.e. - I pay for a node in the network, and get paid incrementally every time someone accesses the network via my node? The payment being slightly higher based on the speed/bandwidth of the node I've provided.

I imagine the payment could be a combination of a "pay what you can" donation as in this example, and a generated coin based on the increase in value of having a network like this in a regional area.

Re: WavesMesh: Pay-what-you-can community-owned ISP for Baltimore

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Post by rienbdj »

digdugdirk wrote: post #33

Would it be possible to add a blockchain (/blockchain-like) layer to a network like this that is tied to your node's provided throughput? I.e. - I pay for a node in the network, and get paid incrementally every time someone accesses the network via my node? The payment being slightly higher based on the speed/bandwidth of the node I've provided. I imagine the payment could be a combination of a "pay what you can" don…

The overhead of the blockchain would be too much compared to the bandwidth provided most likely.

Re: WavesMesh: Pay-what-you-can community-owned ISP for Baltimore

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Post by chokeartist »

Zeing0Ch wrote: post #21

This should be illegal, how could private enterprises possibly compete with community organized ISPs? You have to take into account the increase in profit every ISP has to make every year. How is the industry going to survive if you allow competition from ISP's that do not need to make profit? Many cities are already making this illegal, hopefully Baltimore realizes how damaging this truly is for business.

This was a pretty good troll - well played sir ;)

Re: WavesMesh: Pay-what-you-can community-owned ISP for Baltimore

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Post by cowsandmilk »

digdugdirk wrote: post #33

Would it be possible to add a blockchain (/blockchain-like) layer to a network like this that is tied to your node's provided throughput? I.e. - I pay for a node in the network, and get paid incrementally every time someone accesses the network via my node? The payment being slightly higher based on the speed/bandwidth of the node I've provided. I imagine the payment could be a combination of a "pay what you can" don…

See https://www.helium.com/ for an effort focused on iot and device companies rather than home internet.

Re: WavesMesh: Pay-what-you-can community-owned ISP for Baltimore

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Post by ignoramous »

digdugdirk wrote: post #33

Would it be possible to add a blockchain (/blockchain-like) layer to a network like this that is tied to your node's provided throughput? I.e. - I pay for a node in the network, and get paid incrementally every time someone accesses the network via my node? The payment being slightly higher based on the speed/bandwidth of the node I've provided. I imagine the payment could be a combination of a "pay what you can" don…

> I pay for a node in the network, and get paid incrementally every time someone accesses the network via my node? The payment being slightly higher based on the speed/bandwidth of the node I've provided.

Thats exactly what new-age dVPNs like Orchid and Mysterium do. You can share your "residential IP" and bandwith with other dVPN users in exchange for crypto micro-payments.

Also see Golem, Elastos, and other such Web3 initiatives.

Re: WavesMesh: Pay-what-you-can community-owned ISP for Baltimore

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Post by rektide »

sushshshsh wrote: post #5
ibraheemmmoosa wrote: post #4

I wonder if this is economically viable.

What happens when freeloaders show up? Perpetual energy?

The marginal cost for most extra users is tiny, so, nothing happens. Freeloaders welcome. But please pay; there are some pretty serious costs.

If a user does start using an inordinate amount of resources, perhaps they can be throttled. Or asked to pay a little more than they had been paying.

Re: WavesMesh: Pay-what-you-can community-owned ISP for Baltimore

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Post by Zeing0Ch »

drivingmenuts wrote: post #28
Zeing0Ch wrote: post #21

This should be illegal, how could private enterprises possibly compete with community organized ISPs? You have to take into account the increase in profit every ISP has to make every year. How is the industry going to survive if you allow competition from ISP's that do not need to make profit? Many cities are already making this illegal, hopefully Baltimore realizes how damaging this truly is for business.

Commercial ISPs will do fine - in the coming age of work-from-home there are always going to be those who need/desire more bandwidth than that provided by community ISPs. Most basic access doesn’t require the kind of high bandwidth that commercial providers are supposed to be capable of. A threat to commercial providers is a very good thing as it might force them to step up their game and provide even better access,…

The market already makes commercial ISPs "step up their game and provide even better access" exactly as you say, it works perfectly. If you have every community suddenly owning their own fibre in the streets they live on, what are commercial ISPs supposed to do? No there has to be legislation to stop this, many cities are already doing this which is a good thing.

Re: WavesMesh: Pay-what-you-can community-owned ISP for Baltimore

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Post by Zeing0Ch »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #31
elliebike wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this satire? I'm genuinely confused.

It clearly is with this line: > You have to take into account the increase in profit every ISP has to make every year Not profit every year, but _increase_ in profit every year.

I actually am a shareholder of CenturyLink, I really don't care if you think that's satire, as long as the people we put in charge do everything they can to make it happen.
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