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Re: Google outage – resolved

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What exactly did you do that makes you so confident?

Exactly after my setIamPolicy API request to Google Cloud was the exact moment everything went down.

Big Tech is practicing their shutdown maneuvers as we get closer to Inauguration Day in the US.

Re: Google outage – resolved

#542

So, anybody still feel like arguing that 'the cloud' is a viable back-up? Or is that a sore point right now? Just for a moment imagine: what if it never comes back again? Of course it will, - at least, it better - but what if it doesn't? And if it does, are you going to take countermeasures in case it happens again or is it just going to be 'back to normal' again?

Different failure mode. If the cloud goes down, many more people are affected. If your self-hosted thing goes down, only you are affected. If everybody self-hosted, would the overall downtime be lower? Even if it were, would it be worth the effort of self-hosting?

Re: Google outage – resolved

#543

edit: added details edit: redacted my phone number edit: big mistake to add phone number edit: I think illic is right, probably not me edit: removed details

What are IAM permissions?

It's what Amazon calls your cloud login account

Identity and Access Management (IAM)

Re: Google outage – resolved

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post #542

So, anybody still feel like arguing that 'the cloud' is a viable back-up? Or is that a sore point right now? Just for a moment imagine: what if it never comes back again? Of course it will, - at least, it better - but what if it doesn't? And if it does, are you going to take countermeasures in case it happens again or is it just going to be 'back to normal' again?

Different failure mode. If the cloud goes down, many more people are affected. If your self-hosted thing goes down, only you are affected. If everybody self-hosted, would the overall downtime be lower? Even if it were, would it be worth the effort of self-hosting?

For baby pictures yes, for everything else, no

Re: Google outage – resolved

#546
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Google is also rejecting SMTP ingress traffic. (delivery temporarily suspended: lost connection with aspmx.l.google.com[2a00:1450:400c:c04::1b] while sending DATA command)

That is Really Bad™. People are going to miss critical emails with no recovery.

Fortunately email was designed back in a day when mail servers could fail. Don’t worry - proper SMTP servers will retry patiently.

Re: Google outage – resolved

#547

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I, and probably many others here are like a status page for friends and family too... I had my wife thinking that the internet was broken, and tried tethering to phone and things and still didn't work, then showed me and I saw the status code errors and was like "it's actually parts of Google that are down". I love (and am deeply scared by) the dependence of Google and the confusion of it with the entire internet.

It gets even worse: https://twitter.com/joemfbrown/status/1338452107419148290 >I’m sitting here in the dark in my toddler’s room because the light is controlled by @Google Home. Rethinking... a lot right now. Some people are compiling more relevant events: https://twitter.com/internetofshit

I still like my physical switch on the wall to turn the light on and off very much.. for me it's hard to beat. I can even turn it on/off semi-remotely with e.g. a tennis ball.

Re: Google outage – resolved

#549
post #348

Google is also rejecting SMTP ingress traffic. (delivery temporarily suspended: lost connection with aspmx.l.google.com[2a00:1450:400c:c04::1b] while sending DATA command)

That is Really Bad™. People are going to miss critical emails with no recovery.

Emails will be delayed but sending SMTP servers have a retry mechanism up to a few days.

Re: Google outage – resolved

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post #501

edit: added details edit: redacted my phone number edit: big mistake to add phone number edit: I think illic is right, probably not me edit: removed details

I am not google, but if i were to start looking for idiots to throw under a bus for this outage, you will on top of the list. besides google won't be exactly calling you because you made that comment here. other commenters are right that you should not expose your personal number on internet regardless of it was you or not

> Last thing you want is a conversation with google's lawyer

Google more or less want people find their weaknesses so they can patch and secure them. A person accidentally triggering a global outage is not something that would cause that person to get lawyers on them. Especially not something that only affects his or hers GCP-project.

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