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Re: Google outage – resolved

#501

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I am not google, but if i were to start looking for idiots to throw under a bus for this outage, you will on top of the list.

besides google won't be exactly calling you because you made that comment here.

other commenters are right that you should not expose your personal number on internet regardless of it was you or not

Re: Google outage – resolved

#503

Given the blast radius of this (all regions appear to be impacted) along with the fact that services that don't rely on auth are working as normal, it must be a global authN/Z issue. I do not envy Google engineers right now.

Makes sense, at work we have an application running on Google Cloud and everything seems to be working. So the outage is probably not at network or infrastructure level.

Re: Google outage – resolved

#506

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This isn't true, but considering every Google outage is a one in a billion rube goldberg domino machine, it could be true. Put this comment in the post mortem!

Re: Google outage – resolved

#507

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What are IAM permissions?

Just permissions. The "IAM" can be safely dropped. It's exactly what you think it'd be: restrictions and privileges.

"IAM" is basically the name for a specific model of doing it.

Unless something really crazy happened, this user is unlikely to be correct. Accounts are supposed to be firewalled/sandboxed in a way that you can't contagion across to someone else's let alone systemwide.

It's possible (some sweeping script on a powerful connection that smashes just the right things or some exploit to break the sandboxing), just probably not likely - especially unintentionally.

But crazier things have happened https://books.google.com/books?id=rRp7DkTegMEC&newbks=0&prin...

Re: Google outage – resolved

#508
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So, anybody still feel like arguing that 'the cloud' is a viable back-up? Or is that a sore point right now? Just for a moment imagine: what if it never comes back again? Of course it will, - at least, it better - but what if it doesn't? And if it does, are you going to take countermeasures in case it happens again or is it just going to be 'back to normal' again?

What worries me the most is email. I basically don't use any other Google services other than Gmail and YouTube, but for email I really don't know of an alternative. Sure you can argue "move to Fastmail/Protonmail/Hey/whatever", but those can also go down on you just like Google is down now. And self hosting email is apparently not a thing due to complexity and having to forever fight with being marked as spam (ndr.:…

The point is that you shouldn't put all your eggs in one basket. All services go down. If you're worried about someone else handling it when it goes down then host your own [1], otherwise you can use something different for each thing you need. Don't rely on Google for everything.

1- https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#ema...

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