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Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by jen729w »

wpietri wrote: post #90
jen729w wrote: post #40

Well, this was bound to happen one day. This is my site. I guess I’ll read the comments here then go take a bath with a bottle of gin. :-) Edit: yep. As suspected. Let me just say this, if I may: 1. You don’t have to like every idea, but please consider that some people do . 2. I’ve been using this successfully for a decade. I’m using it right now to organise a project. My boss loves me for it, because guess what? We…

Thanks for your comments here. They made me see that this is meant for a pretty particular context. My first reaction was creeping horror, because this feels like a solution to a problem people shouldn't have. But now that I read you talking about the situations you've made this for, I get your point: it's a problem people do have, and one that's not going away any time soon. Just to save future bathub wear and tear,…

Good points, thanks, and probably the main thing I’ll take away from this thread.

“It isn’t for everyone” is absolutely right, and if I can make that separation higher up then it’s better for everyone.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

jen729w wrote: post #40

Well, this was bound to happen one day. This is my site. I guess I’ll read the comments here then go take a bath with a bottle of gin. :-) Edit: yep. As suspected. Let me just say this, if I may: 1. You don’t have to like every idea, but please consider that some people do . 2. I’ve been using this successfully for a decade. I’m using it right now to organise a project. My boss loves me for it, because guess what? We…

I see you've already commented on Dewey elsewhere, but was just wondering - are these categories the actual Dewey Decimal System?

Second, have you experienced any of the problems outlined in MetaCrap https://people.well.com/user/doctorow/metacrap.htm

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by jen729w »

izhak wrote: post #101
jen729w wrote: post #40

Well, this was bound to happen one day. This is my site. I guess I’ll read the comments here then go take a bath with a bottle of gin. :-) Edit: yep. As suspected. Let me just say this, if I may: 1. You don’t have to like every idea, but please consider that some people do . 2. I’ve been using this successfully for a decade. I’m using it right now to organise a project. My boss loves me for it, because guess what? We…

Say I have two businesses. How do I go from here? Do I have to have separate spaces with separate enumeration within each of them? Thank you!

See this comment to save me repeating myself. :-)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25415022

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by retrobox »

I can definitely see the appeal of this. Even for my personal files it’s a struggle sometimes to remember the exact name or structure I gave to files, even if the broad category in my head is memorised.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by jen729w »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #112
jen729w wrote: post #40

Well, this was bound to happen one day. This is my site. I guess I’ll read the comments here then go take a bath with a bottle of gin. :-) Edit: yep. As suspected. Let me just say this, if I may: 1. You don’t have to like every idea, but please consider that some people do . 2. I’ve been using this successfully for a decade. I’m using it right now to organise a project. My boss loves me for it, because guess what? We…

I see you've already commented on Dewey elsewhere, but was just wondering - are these categories the actual Dewey Decimal System? Second, have you experienced any of the problems outlined in MetaCrap https://people.well.com/user/doctorow/metacrap.htm

Re: Dewey, no. You make your own category numbers up for each system, every one is different (unless you create a standard, e.g. if you do lots of similar projects).

How have I never seen that link?! Yeah the issues described therein sound familiar...

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by chipsa »

Something jen729w doesn't talk about, but possibly should: if you have two categories that have similar things in them, have the same IDs in both. For example, I'm a low level manager. I've got an area for admin paperwork. One category is Me, other categories are for each of my subordinates. Each of those has a ID for annual performance reports. So mine is 11.01. My subordinates are all 12.01/13.01/14.01. This may result in skipped IDs, as not all subordinates have all of the IDs in use. But this is still helpful, as I know that 01 is always for annual performance reports, 02 is always for training, etc.

Another thing for Johnny: You may not need to get the IT team to make you a Sharepoint list for tracking your IDs. You may have your own little Sharepoint site if they use MS365. OneDrive for MS365 business runs on Sharepoint. So just make your own there.

Admittedly, I don't, because I'm actually using OneNote for that, as well as storing the notes. So every Area is a section group, Category is a section, and every ID is a page. And if I need to make more notes in an ID, I can make a subpage. But normally it's group-section-page. This leads into: the default page is 00.00, which is the table of contents. If you want to go really crazy, you could just embed any files into the pages as well, but I currently think that's a kinda nasty way to do it.

A third thing: if somehow you end up with more than 9 categories (see prior note on categories corresponding to people), nothing stops you from using Base36 for the category numbers. As above, if I became a middle manager, and had to track more than just a few guys, I'd still continue with lexicographic sorting category "numbers". It'd just be non-numeric. This goes into breaking the rules, but rules are there to be broke when necessary and sensible.

Re: Johnny.Decimal

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Post by jen729w »

chipsa wrote: post #104
pix64 wrote: post #91

What happens when the counter reaches 0.99?

> “What happens when I get to 99?” > You never will. And if you do, the category you defined was almost certainly too broad. Split it up.[0] Alternatively, your IDs are too narrow, so you should be stuffing more into each ID folder. That is, to modify an example from the website: You have "14.01 1601 Timesheet". But you have a new ID for every pay period. So you have "14.02 1602 Timesheet". Better would just be have…

> Better would just be have "14.01 Timesheets", and each timesheet gets the year and week prepended to it.

This is what I do. Isn’t the site clear?

I (still, 5 years later) have `14.01 Timesheets`, and within there I have `yymm` folders which contain each entry.

14.02 is still free. So yep, a ‘wasted’ category there ... but I have a hundred to play with, and really rarely use more than about 30 in a complete system.

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