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Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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Post by stickfigure »

linuxftw wrote: post #89
unnouinceput wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like idealistic people. Please, never change. Me, on the other hand, as a citizen of a very corrupt corrupt country in which the specter of communism still linger heavily, I wonder how many officials would either "malfunction" cameras when cartel members would be caught on video OR would actively help cartel members organize their kidnappings.

Happens in countries perceived to be less corrupt as well. Consider the 'missing' video of Jeffrey Epstein's suicide.

This is conspiracy theory nonsense. Consider what percentage of video cameras in public spaces function at all.

Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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Post by stickfigure »

in_cahoots wrote: post #115
drudu wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You serious think that taking away the stream of income that has put trillions of usd in the hands of cartels / organized crime won't have a huge impact?

Look at it another way. Do you really think an industry reaping trillions of dollars is going to go away without a fight?

You mean like putting a lot of money into opposing legalization efforts? Yeah, I expect that.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

stickfigure wrote: post #121
linuxftw wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Happens in countries perceived to be less corrupt as well. Consider the 'missing' video of Jeffrey Epstein's suicide.

This is conspiracy theory nonsense. Consider what percentage of video cameras in public spaces function at all.

It’s 2020. Cheap, long lasting cameras are ubiquitous and easily available. A 40 year old CCTV camera in a subway station might be likely to not work, but I don’t see why that’s comparable to a camera for one of the highest profile prisoners in recent years. For $100, they could have even had 2 cameras for redundancy and no excuse.

Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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Post by oh_sigh »

in_cahoots wrote: post #115
drudu wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You serious think that taking away the stream of income that has put trillions of usd in the hands of cartels / organized crime won't have a huge impact?

Look at it another way. Do you really think an industry reaping trillions of dollars is going to go away without a fight?

Wouldn't they be more likely to just enter the market as legal participants? Cartels kill and do heinous things to their competitors because they can't take them to court and sue them and get an injunction to stop bad behavior.

Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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Post by 3131s »

TrackerFF wrote: post #118

Used to date a girl from Honduras (Tegucigalpa), and heard some real horror stories about the day-to-day crime. One day a gang knocked on her parents door (they owned an apartment) and pretty much gave them a 2-day notice to get out. They packed their stuff, and left. Their senior neighbor did not - she ended up getting killed. Apparently gangs like that just seize apartments, and use them for criminal activities (pr…

As someone who is from the US but lives in a poor country, it's hard to imagine what it would be like to take the already dire situations of place like this and then add in 2-3x the drug trafficking violence compared to the US.

Legalizing most recreational drugs around the world is absolutely imperative! If it is not done sooner than later then the largest drug trafficking organizations will be so entrenched that it may become impossible.

Many lives would be saved if these drugs could be purchased in consistent doses with standardized labeling and packaging.

Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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Post by [deleted] »

rayiner wrote: post #99
BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 wrote: post #95

Criminalization of drugs is a price support program for the cartels. Legalise the drugs and allow legal production - and the cartels will have to find an honest way to make a living like the rest of us have to do.

> Legalise the drugs and allow legal production - and the cartels will have to find an honest way to make a living like the rest of us have to do. This is magical thinking. Organized crime can make money in other ways. This story is about kidnapping, for example. Organized crime exists in many places where it’s not funded by drug trade.

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Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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Post by 3131s »

lactobacillis wrote: post #114
BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 wrote: post #95

Criminalization of drugs is a price support program for the cartels. Legalise the drugs and allow legal production - and the cartels will have to find an honest way to make a living like the rest of us have to do.

But isn't aren't drugs de-facto legal in Mexico anyway? The cartels are thought to control the police, judges and politicians enough that they do not fear the rule of law much. If drugs were legalized in Mexico, wouldn't the cartels do what cartels do anyway and prevent everyone else from producing? Or do you mean make it legal at the destination - the US?

They should be legal everywhere, but legalizing in the US will have the most impact.

Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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Post by [deleted] »

rayiner wrote: post #99
BXLE_1-1-BitIs1 wrote: post #95

Criminalization of drugs is a price support program for the cartels. Legalise the drugs and allow legal production - and the cartels will have to find an honest way to make a living like the rest of us have to do.

> Legalise the drugs and allow legal production - and the cartels will have to find an honest way to make a living like the rest of us have to do. This is magical thinking. Organized crime can make money in other ways. This story is about kidnapping, for example. Organized crime exists in many places where it’s not funded by drug trade.

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Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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Post by hellonoko »

ilaksh wrote: post #106

As someone who has been living in Mexico for a couple of years now to save money, these types of stories terrify me. I am seriously thinking of moving back to the United States. The only problem is that I cannot really afford to live there. I have some unresolved health issues and for many years have been working exclusively online because I could not handle commuting. But for me it has not been easy to find high-pay…

Is there a reason you are living in Tijuana and not... anywhere else in Mexico?

I did a 5 month road trip through Mexico and there are so many cheap beautiful safe spots to live.

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