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Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

#43
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Let's start by saying that marihuana is just one of the products that cartels sold and represents a miniscule part of the earnings since the 80s. As of a 2007 report, it was estimated that marijuana contributed up to 60% of cartel revenues [0]. > According to the National Drug Intelligence Center, drug proceeds in Mexico in 2005 ranged from... $3.9 billion to $14.3 billion for marijuana... Mexican drug traffickers…

Ok, you are not accounting that war against drugs started in 2007 specifically under Felipe Calderón so that report is outdated. The activities that I mentioned specifically oil robberies started after it and that generates way more than marihuana. There is an ongoing case from Pemex against few companies in Houston buying stolen oil. You should look it up

> Ok, you are not accounting that war against drugs started in 2007 specifically under Felipe Calderón so that report is outdated

Alternative sources all appear to be contemporary to that report. I’m happy to consider other data, but I’m hesitant to give Calderón’s policies the benefit of the doubt, given the dramatic increase in cartel violence [0] under his tenure and his solicitation of bribes from cartels while in office [1].

> The activities that I mentioned specifically oil robberies started after it and that generates way more than marihuana

Oil theft in Mexico cost Pemex $1.5bln in 2016 [2]. Assuming cartel revenues from marijuana have fallen 50% since 2007, oil theft revenues would still need to grow 3x to rival those from marijuana.

[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/06/world/americas/mexico-dru...

[1] https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/chapos-lawyer-claims-cartel...

[2] https://www.insightcrime.org/news/brief/mexico-state-oil-com...

Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

#45
post #9

This really should be made into a movie. It is absolutely astonishing and there are a lot of details I’d be interested in knowing about her campaign.

There is a similar story. Not from San Fernando, but from Juarez. Similar in the sense that is the mother who wants justice.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt13206564/

Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

#46
post #4

The US government spends trillions on the military, what stops them from descending with a crapload of police forces into a city like this and putting an end to it?

Sovereignty of Mexico state. Imagine this was reversed.

I believe we live in a narco-state where government works for the cartels. This does not exclude US authorities, search for Garcia Luna and ties with DEA operatives/israel companies

Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

#47
post #4

The US government spends trillions on the military, what stops them from descending with a crapload of police forces into a city like this and putting an end to it?

> The US government spends trillions on the military, what stops them from descending with a crapload of police forces into a city like this and putting an end to it?

“Military” and “police forces” are different things.

But, in either case, doing so would both start a war with and further destabilize Mexico. There's a reason the US usually does this to countries far from its own borders, separated by oceans, or both, so that the blowback when popular support collapses and the ongoing cost in blood and treasure becomes intolerable is born by people that are remote from the US (in both the target country and it's neighbors.)

Aside from those pragmatic concerns, the same considerations also have a moral dimension, though that's less consistently reflected in policy decisions.

Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

#48

What can I do as an individual to see less of this stuff happen?

Don't buy drugs off the street or promote their use.

To be clear this depends on the drug. Cocaine and heroin are blood-soaked; cannabis, LSD or psychedelic mushrooms not so much. MDMA is probably somewhere in between.

Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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post #36

Amazing story, and real journalism. If only the news spent more time uncovering the truth instead of opining about politics. I'm so sick of politics.

Well, a bit of advice from eastern european dictatures -- the more people try to refrain from politics, the worse politics screws up their lives.

So I ended up respecting politised people, regardless of their views.

For a functioning democracy, everyone must do politics, even if it's unpleasant.

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