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Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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Re: Stalking her daughter’s killers across Mexico, one by one

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Post by spicyramen »

nickles wrote: post #25
spicyramen wrote: post #24

I have doubts Legalization will help to reduce crimes and violence. Let's start by saying that marihuana is just one of the products that cartels sold and represents a miniscule part of the earnings since the 80s. Cartels not only sell marihuana, cocaine and pills, they control human trafficking, prostitution, oil robberies, kidnapping, etc. Removal of local police won't help nor legalization. (Remember marihuana is…

> Let's start by saying that marihuana is just one of the products that cartels sold and represents a miniscule part of the earnings since the 80s. As of a 2007 report, it was estimated that marijuana contributed up to 60% of cartel revenues [0]. > According to the National Drug Intelligence Center, drug proceeds in Mexico in 2005 ranged from... $3.9 billion to $14.3 billion for marijuana... Mexican drug traffickers…

Ok, you are not accounting that war against drugs started in 2007 specifically under Felipe Calderón so that report is outdated. The activities that I mentioned specifically oil robberies started after it and that generates way more than marihuana. There is an ongoing case from Pemex against few companies in Houston buying stolen oil. You should look it up

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Post by sonotathrowaway »

jiofih wrote: post #4

The US government spends trillions on the military, what stops them from descending with a crapload of police forces into a city like this and putting an end to it?

The blood and memory of people who have already paid for that arrogance in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, hopefully.

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Post by x0x0 »

spicyramen wrote: post #24

I have doubts Legalization will help to reduce crimes and violence. Let's start by saying that marihuana is just one of the products that cartels sold and represents a miniscule part of the earnings since the 80s. Cartels not only sell marihuana, cocaine and pills, they control human trafficking, prostitution, oil robberies, kidnapping, etc. Removal of local police won't help nor legalization. (Remember marihuana is…

We actually have evidence for this with eg Portugal (where most studies find a decrease in violent crime) and the US, particularly California where we, for the first time, decriminalized the supply chain. There also, there was a fall in crime [1].

Despite the fact that cartels may continue to control human trafficking, etc, it cannot hurt to take away large chunks of their profits.

[1] https://blog.oup.com/2019/07/how-medical-marijuana-hurts-mex...

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Post by leetcrew »

sto_hristo wrote: post #14
jiofih wrote: post #4

The US government spends trillions on the military, what stops them from descending with a crapload of police forces into a city like this and putting an end to it?

You're fighting cancer. Sure, the US can break all laws and go do a 100% clean sweep of that city, but the area around it will still be contaminated. US will have to leave eventually and this will open the door to new criminals who will simply see it as "free real estate." If people themselves (the immune system, if you wish) don't make an effort like this woman did, no intervention will help them, Earthly or Divine…

> How will Afghanistan last until it collapses again?

the US has already struck a deal with the taliban, and the afghan government is formally negotiating with them right now. so probably not long...

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Post by jmnicolas »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #16
jmnicolas wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US government can't secure its own prisons where it has full control, what make you believe it would do better in a Mexican city?

The US does do better, empirically. I am certainly not endorsing GP’s position, but your false equivalence is a distraction.

The US does better in a US city obviously, but I was speaking about a Mexican city: different economic conditions, different culture etc.

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Post by vsskanth »

cambalache wrote: post #21
ape4 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mini-series!

Yes! Let's use the tragic stories of these persons as a cheap entertainment for Americans

Sometimes you need engaging entertainment to educate people about the horrors many people face, unfortunately.

Narcos from Netflix triggered me to learn about drug cartels and money laundering

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