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The fraying of the U.S. global currency reserve system

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Re: The fraying of the U.S. global currency reserve system

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You've been on HN for 13 years, and this is your first post in 7. Welcome back! Can you provide any context regarding why this article made the cut, when nothing did for 7 years? Sorry if it's a bit off topic; it's just an interesting circumstance, and I'm curious.

OP is clearly a weirdo :)

Re: The fraying of the U.S. global currency reserve system

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"Instead of drawing down our gold reserves, however, we gradually draw down our domestic manufacturing base and it gets replaced piece-by-piece in foreign countries."

To me, this is the money shot. I hadn't seen this expressed before and it makes perfect sense. I'm baffled that we (the US) caused this to happen to the US. I'm (unhappily) registered Republican but I argued vociferously to a Dem friend in 2000 that our inability to manufacture critical components was going to kill us. Kind of literally: AFAIK, the last LCD panel manufacturer in the US closed around then and we could no longer manufacture LCD for our military vehicles... (Even if this anecdote is untrue, the point remains valid...) I argued that, even in the presence of free trade, a country should have the ability to tariff imports to the extent that that country could maintain a 25% (or something) domestic market share.

Re: The fraying of the U.S. global currency reserve system

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"Instead of drawing down our gold reserves, however, we gradually draw down our domestic manufacturing base and it gets replaced piece-by-piece in foreign countries." To me, this is the money shot. I hadn't seen this expressed before and it makes perfect sense. I'm baffled that we (the US) caused this to happen to the US. I'm (unhappily) registered Republican but I argued vociferously to a Dem friend in 2000 that our…

I think people are starting to realise that globalisation needs to be balanced with other kinds of security especially around tech, hence TSMC being given a stack of cash to build a fab in the US.

I wouldn’t say globalisation is dead more that it’s going to be more balanced going forward with local concerns.

Re: The fraying of the U.S. global currency reserve system

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"Instead of drawing down our gold reserves, however, we gradually draw down our domestic manufacturing base and it gets replaced piece-by-piece in foreign countries." To me, this is the money shot. I hadn't seen this expressed before and it makes perfect sense. I'm baffled that we (the US) caused this to happen to the US. I'm (unhappily) registered Republican but I argued vociferously to a Dem friend in 2000 that our…

This happened in part thanks to bain capital, those following the same business model of theivery, and the deregulation in the 80's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bain_Capital Republican lawmakers and party members have been destroying America for generations. Goes back even further to 1971 when Nixon opened talks with the CCCP and then went there in 1972 cutting the ground out from beneath American workers. And now if we even wanted to rebuild our manufacturing base, we have to deal with the same problems the few remaining factories do, finding people not on some kind of illegal substance that can work. The bodies are there, but they aren't in any shape to bring back what we had.

Re: The fraying of the U.S. global currency reserve system

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How much debt can we accumulate before entities stop buying our bonds and treasuries?

This is from the article:

"As of this year, the US Federal Reserve (blue line) now owns more Treasuries than all foreign central banks combined [..]"

So, if your debt is to the Federal Reserve, how much debt can you accumulate before it's too much? Does the question even makes sense?

Re: The fraying of the U.S. global currency reserve system

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post #6

> More troublesome, the inherent flaw of having the global reserve currency, in a theme that goes back to economist Robert Triffin from over half a century ago, is that in order to maintain the global reserve currency, the country must supply the world with its currency via structural deficits in one form or another. That "structural deficit" means allowing manufacturing to move overseas. The trade war is a distracti…

> Holders of bonds would be absolutely wrecked. That's a lot of institutions and wealthy individuals.

Not only institutions, but those who are in power (government) who have risk-tolerant positions in the market with nothing to gain but their own discomfort and retirement.

Re: The fraying of the U.S. global currency reserve system

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post #7

Which country would benefit from a weaker dollar? Germany wants to sell their cars. China their phones. If Americans can't afford them any more, then a big market would disappear.

The US would benefit from a weaker dollar as it would protect what remains of our manufacturing base and also act as an export subsidy. Currency valuation, and in particular currency manipulation, is equivalent to a tariff or an export subsidy depending on which side of it you are on. Yes people like to pretend that if something goes up in cost 20 percent because of currency change that is somehow normal but slap a 10 percent tariff on something and that is completely different.

Re: The fraying of the U.S. global currency reserve system

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post #5

Lyn Alden has become my favorite macroeconomist through the Covid crisis. I bought a bunch of puts in February 2020, they went way up in March till the Fed stepped in and then went down. I went looking for answers on how to understand macroeconomics and Alden has had a lot of interesting takes on it.

If you find that interesting, I highly recommend the Grant Williams podcast. Particularly the episode with Lacy Hunt. But the entire Endgame series is really, really good.

Re: The fraying of the U.S. global currency reserve system

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post #7

Which country would benefit from a weaker dollar? Germany wants to sell their cars. China their phones. If Americans can't afford them any more, then a big market would disappear.

US manufacturers and service providers would benefit from a weaker USD. It would mean our exports are, relatively speaking, cheaper for others to buy with USD. US consumers would be hurt as it would mean imports are more expensive for US consumers.
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