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Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Maemo is brilliant, except it's a dead end in favor of Meego, whose future is uncertain.

What's wrong with a dead end? Isn't SSH a dead end, since we haven't seen any major modifications ina while? Maemo still has SSH, it's still linux, and it's still debian. There are community projects to update software and fix bugs.

SSH is in active development. It isn't a dead end at all. While Maemo/Meemo will be going the way of the dodo probably.

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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HN should add a "report troll" link for comments like this.

I think Apple is starting to lose the mobile war where they used to be kings. I don't think that telling people with the loyalty-handicap that their misplaced corporate loyalty is not a globally shared opinion nor truth qualifies as trolling. But while I (obviously) disagree with your opinion, you are entitled to yours just as I am to mine. Have an upvote.

There is nothing to indicate definitively what you state.

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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According to the HP webOS Developer Forums' Hardware Section, the offer's done. In fact, a lot of developers who took part are still waiting for theirs from back in February/March. The Pre 2 giveaway to developers really could have been executed better, IMO. Some folks who were approved back then don't even know if they'll still get one, which is disconcerting. Google can drop 5,000 special-edition Samsung tablets in…

This is just anecdotal, but I signed up and received my developer Pre2 in about 2 weeks. I assume I must have gotten in before the rush because I signed on as soon as I heard about it. On the other hand, I've been waiting 4 and 6 months to get a Cr48 laptop from Google and not a peep. So its not like only HP is the only one bad at communicating.

Did Google promise to send you one? Or did you fill out a questionnaire in the hopes of them sending you one?

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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HN should add a "report troll" link for comments like this.

I think Apple is starting to lose the mobile war where they used to be kings. I don't think that telling people with the loyalty-handicap that their misplaced corporate loyalty is not a globally shared opinion nor truth qualifies as trolling. But while I (obviously) disagree with your opinion, you are entitled to yours just as I am to mine. Have an upvote.

Don't feed the trolls

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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#7: You can try cutting edge stuff. Yet you can't even do css background gradients. Real cutting edge.

Defending myself against the down voters:

The fact is, I am a webos developer and have been asking for this feature since 2009. It's been in webkit for the longest time and Palm have said they'll add it in, many times and never have. Major let down.

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Considering how many management changes ago it was and the number of different divisions in HP, that's almost like not liking Germany today for WWII. How many years ago that happened? (IE6? must've been ~2004)

I wish it had been ~2004 but it has been happening since 2008. They sold that crappy computers to one of the biggest and newest university libraries in Europe. So, I have a real reason to ignore HP products even if they have great platform.

Because they sold them something they were willing to buy? Sorry, that doesn't make any sense.

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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The Pre actually had decent hardware except for being light on mem. The OMAP chip was particularly overclock friendly and once overclocked along with some additional tweaks was nice and fast. The problem was the earlier webOS versions had no GPU acceleration at all and ended seeming sluggish sometimes.

It needs a bigger form factor in slicker package - CPU/GPU matter but not as much as form factor for the Pre atm. Having the tiny Pre screen does little justice to webOS. If they could get a SGS2 or Atrix type device out with GPU accelerated webOS UI and may be ship Android compatibility until webOS apps catch up - it would become a really credible player.

Yes, I should have been more precise. I've never liked the form factor and packaging of the WebOS devices. TouchPad looks like it might be up to scratch, but still nothing that looks good to me on the horizon in terms of the handset.

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Just tap on the “Just Type” search bar and enter “upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart” (the classic NES Konami code!); an icon appears that lets you toggle this mode on and off. Wait, really? If that's not a joke, then it's kind of cool.

Yep, the konami code to get into dev mode has been in webos since the very beginning. I am talking webos 1.0. Also, WebOs is great. I really like it and the UI but so far the devices have been fairly unimpressive. The original Palm Pre was good for about 3 months. After which android and iphone have gotten so many updates. If the Palm Pre 3 lives up to it's ideal, it would definitely be worth a look but unfortunately…

I was deeply in love with WebOS on my 1st gen Pre. But - like you noted - the hardware was disappointing, and the Pre 2 should have been the Pre 1.5.

Even a year after switching to the iPhone 4 - there are still things I miss about my Pre's UI. If I could get WebOS on iPhone quality hardware, I'd be there in a second.

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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#7: You can try cutting edge stuff. Yet you can't even do css background gradients. Real cutting edge.

Defending myself against the down voters: The fact is, I am a webos developer and have been asking for this feature since 2009. It's been in webkit for the longest time and Palm have said they'll add it in, many times and never have. Major let down.

As a fellow webOS developer, I understand your frustration. I'm just as frustrated with them over hybrid apps. I was already deep into development with my hybrid when they pulled the rug out from under all of us and announced that so-called legacy devices would not be receiving the 2.1 upgrade, and since hybrids would only be officially allowed in the app catalog for 2.1 devices, that meant most of my target audience would not be allowed to download the app through the catalog. I had hoped that if the "legacy" devices wouldn't get the upgrade, at least they would now allow the same devices to download hybrids off the catalog, since hybrids work on ALL devices (despite what their PDK documentation might say). Turns out, they won't allow hybrids on all devices, since they all but abandoned users of 1.4.5.
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