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Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Post by rsanchez1 »

yardie wrote: post #121
jackson71 wrote: post #94

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According to the HP webOS Developer Forums' Hardware Section, the offer's done. In fact, a lot of developers who took part are still waiting for theirs from back in February/March. The Pre 2 giveaway to developers really could have been executed better, IMO. Some folks who were approved back then don't even know if they'll still get one, which is disconcerting. Google can drop 5,000 special-edition Samsung tablets in…

This is just anecdotal, but I signed up and received my developer Pre2 in about 2 weeks. I assume I must have gotten in before the rush because I signed on as soon as I heard about it. On the other hand, I've been waiting 4 and 6 months to get a Cr48 laptop from Google and not a peep. So its not like only HP is the only one bad at communicating.

Same here, from the time I first sent a request in to the Pre 2 arriving, it was only about 2 weeks. I also signed up as soon as I heard about it, so it probably was because I got in before the rush.

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Post by rsanchez1 »

45g wrote: post #130

WebOS is not open source so I fail to see why a "geek" should love it. On the contrary - they should avoid it!

A lot of important components are open source. These open source components are used to allow overclocking among other things.

Plus, Android isn't exactly sticking to open source at the moment, as Google keeps pushing back the Honeycomb source release.

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Post by trezor »

zygen wrote: post #139
trezor wrote: post #134

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You realise that's a year before iPhone 1 was released My bad. So 4 years ago it was the best, despite lacking 3G. 4 years later and next to nothing has changed. I honestly think it warrants being labeled "dated". Untrue and inflamatory trolling. The app store or specific apps, iTunes store integration, familiarity, preference for iOS, loyalty to Apple corporation, integration with Apple TV, fashion, The app store is…

HN should add a "report troll" link for comments like this.

I think Apple is starting to lose the mobile war where they used to be kings. I don't think that telling people with the loyalty-handicap that their misplaced corporate loyalty is not a globally shared opinion nor truth qualifies as trolling.

But while I (obviously) disagree with your opinion, you are entitled to yours just as I am to mine. Have an upvote.

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Post by unwiredben »

mahrain wrote: post #125
rsanchez1 wrote: post #81

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Yeah, I can do all of that with my Pre 2 as well, and I had been doing it on my Pre for a while. Heck, with xterm on my Pre 2, I can run a Debian or Ubuntu ARM rootfs and actually have a full Linux experience in my pocket.

Is there any way to connect a display/keyboard/mouse (the input devices perhaps over bluetooth) so it can even be a desktop?

Bluetooth keyboards work on webOS 2.0 and later. The webOS emulator runs as x86 virtual machine and uses your keyboard and mouse from the host PC. Some people have boot that image directly on PC hardware with varying degrees of success.

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Post by deepGem »

moeffju wrote: post #133

I really want to like WebOS. I did when the original Pre came out, but the hardware was only so-so and the marketing was too little. Now, the new hardware looks really slick and the Enyo framework is super powerful. Again I was happy... Until I tried to sign up in their dev center. It's a many step process during which you have to register with the IRS, for example. Then you have to email them and ask for access to t…

You need to fill in the tax crap if u want the developer access and the Enyo early access. In other words if you are hoping to get any revenues from your apps. You also need a paypal account. Just for the SDK you can stick to the community member level.

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Post by Argorak »

aidenn0 wrote: post #137
Argorak wrote: post #101

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I said recent device. I am not interested in buying last years model if all they push at the moment is the new line of products. How should I develop applications for their new and shiny line, if I cannot even get a fully working device on my contract?

Pre2 is the most recent phone you can buy with any carrier in the US right now.

You surely haven't missed the fact that the current advertisement push of HP is not about the Pre 2 though, but about the new lineup which starts to be on sale from next sunday on (starting with the HP Veer, followed by the Pre 3 and the Tablet which integrates with those two).

So yes: technically, it is the most recent. Practically, only for 3 more days.

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Post by firefoxman1 »

jackson71 wrote: post #98
comex wrote: post #95

"You don’t have to jailbreak or root your device. What other platforms call jailbreaking or rooting, we call entering developer mode." As an iOS jailbreaker, I mean, it removes a bit of the fun, but still. I ought to get a Pre.

Having had a Pre since the day Sprint launched it in 2009, it's truly a hackerphone for those that want to customize their experience, and one of the primary reasons I've evangelized the platform and my experience developing for and tinkering with it to all the developer friends of mine that'd listen. They got it right from the start. No bootloader crap or jailbreaking necessary. Preware from webOS Internals is just…

And all user-made the patches available make the phone so much better

Re: Why Geeks Should Love HP WebOS

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Post by nodata »

EwanToo wrote: post #126
nodata wrote: post #110

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Can you exclude your private ssh key from being synced with google?

Why do you think the private ssh key would be sync'd with Google in first place? There's no background sync of your Android phone's contents to Google, just things like Contacts and Email (which are optional)

When I setup an Android phone I am asked if I want to sink my configuration and data with Google, and that this information includes things like wifi psks.

Are ssh keys stored in an area that is separate from what Google syncs?

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