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I built a picture frame with a greyscale e-paper that runs on battery for years

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I am building something like this, but the pandemic has prevented me from collaborating with my frame maker. The e-ink panel I have has a fairly fragile ribbon cable we are trying to hide inside the frame with some clever cuts. I am not sure how the panels for Kindles allow them to have such small margins. The biggest problem I have is fitting a battery into the frame -- I was trying to find a low profile USB battery…

PiSugar or UPS Lite?

Re: I built a picture frame with a greyscale e-paper that runs on battery for years

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Note, they have dithering, and they likely went for the best one possible.

They == the ArtFrame's built-in software ;) What I posted was generated by the device. It is an example of the actual picture quality.

Yes, with a specifically chosen image.

Re: I built a picture frame with a greyscale e-paper that runs on battery for years

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The picture frame runs for years, unlike their web site. "502 Bad Gateway"

Appearing on HH's front page can put quite a load on an usually low-traffic website and put it on its knees quickly.

Yeah especially since it's Wordpress with Woocommerce so enabling caching isn't super straightforward, although it looks like there hasn't even been any attempt made.

Re: I built a picture frame with a greyscale e-paper that runs on battery for years

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I worked on a number of digital photo frames, including on ones like that. E-ink is not the most suitable thing for it in its current form. First, large size EPD cost an arm, and a leg, and custom one costs even more. Second, there are no 8 bit EPD controllers as of now a mortal can buy, which means grays look very bad. Third, there are inherent physical limitations which make increasing gray resolution of EPDs quite…

On the second point, my experience comes from a Kobo Glo HD eReader, but the rendition of photographs is very good - cliché, but its like a printed page. Line art obviously works best because its bold and high contrast, but colour digital art and black and white photographs all display very well in my opinion.

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What would you suggest for an affordable picture frame displaying digital art?

A second hand TV? Large size LCDs got ridiculously cheap with time. It may be cheaper to by a 40 inch LCD panel, than a 10 inch high-end Eink

The difficult bit is making it not look like a screen. Even the fancy Sony "the frame" (which are supposed to do clever matching to room brightness etc) TVs don't get that quite right, and only do it in some special mode...

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What would you suggest for an affordable picture frame displaying digital art?

If you can plug it into a wall, have a Raspberry Pi 4 series driving a 4K TV of the size of your choice. The cheapest one I see on Amazon right now is a 40" 4K HDR from Vizio, with quite a small bezel - $240. Hang it on a wall and paint the bezel white, or make a nice wood frame for it.

40" is massive for a picture frame

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If you can plug it into a wall, have a Raspberry Pi 4 series driving a 4K TV of the size of your choice. The cheapest one I see on Amazon right now is a 40" 4K HDR from Vizio, with quite a small bezel - $240. Hang it on a wall and paint the bezel white, or make a nice wood frame for it.

40" is massive for a picture frame

When you don't like the pictures, you can change them.

You can give them special frames and mattes.

You can show 36 Views of Mount Fuji all at once, and then two at a time.

And you can watch Netflix on it later.

Re: I built a picture frame with a greyscale e-paper that runs on battery for years

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I am building something like this, but the pandemic has prevented me from collaborating with my frame maker. The e-ink panel I have has a fairly fragile ribbon cable we are trying to hide inside the frame with some clever cuts. I am not sure how the panels for Kindles allow them to have such small margins. The biggest problem I have is fitting a battery into the frame -- I was trying to find a low profile USB battery…

Simply use a cellphone or phablet battery; samsung galaxy batteries are flat and cheap, so if they don't provide enough mAh, use more than one

Re: I built a picture frame with a greyscale e-paper that runs on battery for years

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This is an advertisement linking to a broken storefront in case anyone was wondering. Maybe the creator can share more about the design of this device (ex/ what embedded device you're using (ESP32?), is an ASIC driving the display, epaper supplier, etc.)? Have you considered using E INKs Kaleido coloured epaper?

> a broken storefront

not everybody cares about the selling part more than the building part...

Re: I built a picture frame with a greyscale e-paper that runs on battery for years

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I worked on a number of digital photo frames, including on ones like that. E-ink is not the most suitable thing for it in its current form. First, large size EPD cost an arm, and a leg, and custom one costs even more. Second, there are no 8 bit EPD controllers as of now a mortal can buy, which means grays look very bad. Third, there are inherent physical limitations which make increasing gray resolution of EPDs quite…

> E-ink is not the most suitable thing for it in its current form.

What would you say is?

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