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Re: Chrome Is Bad

#151
I recently started to use Edge. It is funny that YouTube couldn't detect my identity, so it will ask me to login in almost every video I play, and it won't display any comments for videos. If I want to read comments, I will have to switch to Chrome. YouTube behaves very strangely when you are not using Chrome.

I do see many times WindowServer would be at 40%-50% CPU usage, it happens fairly often. I might just delete Chrome now.

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#152

This should not be the #1 story on HN right now. :( It's a single anecdote that deleting Chrome on two computers sped them up. It provides zero evidence (even anecdotal) that it has anything to do with "Keystone" specifically. It provides zero evidence for the idea that "Keystone" is able to "nefariously hide itself from Activity Monitor". And it also completely contradicts the normal user experience of Chrome, which…

Agreed, about 25% of the content on HN seems to be Google hate.

Google, Amazon and Facebook. Microsoft gets it in the comment section, mostly. Only Apple is truly safe on HN.

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#153
On mac OS, Activity Monitor itself causes WindowServer CPU usage to spike. This is the "observer effect".

To test, just open a terminal and compare a few samples of `ps aux | grep WindowServer` with Activity Monitor open and with it closed.

Mine averages 7-11% with Activity Monitor closed and 20-40% with Activity Monitor open. It's even more noticeable if your refresh rate is set to "Very Often". Closing Activity Monitor brings the WindowServer CPU back to normal.

As other have noted, this site provides no evidence. The keystone daemon is not running in the background constantly. When it does run, it's plainly visible and not "hiding itself". According to the launchd job config located at `/Library/LaunchAgents/com.google.keystone.agent.plist` my keystone process is set to run itself every 3623 seconds. Probably randomized to avoid the thundering herd problem. When it does run it checks for updates, often downloading new ones, and then quits.

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#154

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What does Chrome do better than Safari?

Does anyone know a way to get Safari to show a preview of the url when you hover over a link? I tried to switch recently since it's supposed to waste less battery but two things I found were a bad experience after Chrome: - no decent ad blocker? the one I saw recommended was Ad Guard but that seems to require you to have an Electron app running simultaneously (!) in order for it to block anything - in Chrome when I h…

- AdGuard has to run its app in the background, true, but it‘s very well behaved. - menu: View —-> ShowStatus Bar (command /)

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#155

This should not be the #1 story on HN right now. :( It's a single anecdote that deleting Chrome on two computers sped them up. It provides zero evidence (even anecdotal) that it has anything to do with "Keystone" specifically. It provides zero evidence for the idea that "Keystone" is able to "nefariously hide itself from Activity Monitor". And it also completely contradicts the normal user experience of Chrome, which…

Rust = Good

Google = Bad

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#156
post #139

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> I can't help but wonder what the motivation behind making this page was. Why would you immediately jump to assuming bad faith? No grand conspiracy required... the author believes that Chrome is slowing down his Mac and decided to share it. The end.

Asking the question "wonder" is not really assuming bad faith is it? I don't see any intentional deception there.

The page says "I deleted Chrome, and all the files Keystone had littered on the computer, restarted, and it was so snappy it felt like a brand new computer. Yeah, I realize this sounds like a freakin' infomercial, but it worked so well I spent $5 on a domain name and set up this website even if it makes me sound like a raving nut."

To then "wonder what the motivation is" is to suggest that you don't believe this simple positive explanation, and imply there's something less simple, and more scheming.

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#157
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>>To make an argument of this scale you have the burden of proof. There is no proof here past casual correlation. And yet, as of this writing, it has 200+ upvotes and is at the top of the front page. HN audience really needs to do better. If you are reading this and are one of the people who upvoted the story, please really ask yourself why.

Oh this is normal. People upvote the title, then comment, then read it if the comments aren’t agreeing with their preconception. Humans are a mess of a species.

There isn't a website on the planet that allows for votes where it doesn't very often happen that they provide a viewport into the boundless stupidity of the human species.

I wonder how H.N. and similar websites would work if ranking was purely a function of activity and not of votes — simply push to the top whichever branch of the tree has the last reply so highly debated news is statistically more often at the top, but whichever link had the last reply somewhere will be currently at the top.

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#158
The idea that a process could hide itself from Activity Monitor seems hard to believe, so since that is one of the first claims in the article it seems like it’d be easy to demonstrate or disprove.

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#159
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> The window to the internet This exact part of your comment is why big companies are fighting so hard to own and gatekeep web browsers.

> big companies are fighting so hard to own and gatekeep web browsers could you expand on this? Which big companies are you referring to?

Apple, Microsoft, Mozilla, Google

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#160

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Agreed, about 25% of the content on HN seems to be Google hate.

Google, Amazon and Facebook. Microsoft gets it in the comment section, mostly. Only Apple is truly safe on HN.

>Only Apple is truly safe on HN.

Not even close to being true...

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