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ZFS: Use mirror vdevs, not RAIDZ

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Re: ZFS: Use mirror vdevs, not RAIDZ

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I was speaking generally. I'm glad the service fits for you, and it appears that they have setup reasonably-structured incentives. But using that pricing, 24TB with Jottacloud would be 450 EUR/year, which is still on the order of $1000. The larger point is that disk sizes are always growing, and while 24TB may seem unnecessary to you, it's very easy to build an array that is cumbersome to backup. And IME this has rem…

Unless you have tons of data churn or really love burst uploads, you should treat Jottacloud as roughly 15TB of capacity. Here's the speed chart: https://docs.jottacloud.com/en/articles/3271114-reduced-uplo... So for 24TB you would use two accounts, assuming they're fine with that, and your uploads would run at 5Mbps per thread, with 12 threads in parallel. That will let you upload 100GB every 4 hours, which should b…

Thanks for taking the time to explain the details of their offering. I agree that looks well thought out and a much better value than anything else I've seen, especially for the market of personal NAS stuff we're talking about. And a quick search looks like it can be supported by Free (ie secure) backup solutions like duplicity.

Re: ZFS: Use mirror vdevs, not RAIDZ

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zfs send enabled accounts are (relatively) expensive because we need to give you a full-blown VPN with a routable ipv4, etc. If you can make do with an ipv6 address and if you have a reasonable quantity, email us ... perhaps we can work something out ...

I’m relatively new to ZFS, but I thought you can send/receive over ssh (much like rsync). What’s the purpose of the VPN layer? My use is relatively small, just a home user with less than a TB worth of data. Definitely not worthwhile for your team to set up as a one off.

It is always worth to write an email to info@rsync.net to work out an acceptable offer. I did it and got a relatively good offer. I have now 2 TB at rsync.net.

rsync.net is not cheap but you have to know what you get: ZFS with great redundancy and a great support. All you have to do is using the service. You don't have to worry about maintenance.

Re: ZFS: Use mirror vdevs, not RAIDZ

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You need to do more than just keep a backup of current state, if you want to deal with problems other than complete failure/destruction of the primary. What about accidental deletion and incorrect editing (done too long ago for "undo" to work)?

> What about accidental deletion and incorrect editing (done too long ago for "undo" to work)? Eh? We're talking ZFS here. Built-in atomic low cost snapshots are part of the core feature set. If we're talking using a pool and backing up another pool it's a reasonable baseline assumption that one would be using either their own or one of the many mature scripts to have regular automatic snapshots and retention schedul…

Fair point, but the comment I replied to did not mention configuring anything like that, and while it is all there for the taking it isn't automatically configured.
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