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Re: Chrome Is Bad

#41
post #15

Is there anything like this going on on Linux? I don't really use it, but I have it in case I need to do dev testing.

I find it maddening when articles presume a specific operating system without ever explicitly mentioning it. This is not limited to a Mac - happens with Windows and Linux articles as well.

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#42
post #30
post #10

Chrome's security is, however, light years ahead of anyone else's; it remains the sole reason I still use it. It's possible to use Little Snitch to deny Keystone/ksupdate all network access, which is what I do, which removes the Google RCE vulnerability it places on your machine. Make sure to periodically manually update Chrome, however.

What evidence do you have to back up that claim?

In the security industry it's commonly known Chrome has the best security, this partly due to the amount of money Google invests in finding vulnerabilities (via fuzzing) in Chrome.

For "proof", you can check how much exploit vendors pay for exploits for each browser. For example Zerodium offer:

* $500k for Chrome RCE

* $100k for Safari RCE

* $100k for Firefox RCE

https://zerodium.com/program.html

The higher amount would generally indicate its harder to get an RCE in Chrome.

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#43
post #29

The author went so far as to create a domain for this rant, and yet didn't even do any performance metrics or basic forensic analysis at all. I'm not saying the author is wrong, but there's a lot of questions here. How does Keystone hide itself from the Activity Monitor? Is there a Keystone process if you run `ps aux`? Did you run dtruss/strace? What is it doing when Chrome isn't running that causes it to degrade per…

Possible correlation and hand waving equals causation. I, too, was hoping for something, well, technical. Considering #1 on hacker news...

Does anyone else see the irony that hand waving is being disputed with hand waving?

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like homebrew maybe? ;-)

homebrew is non-commercial and updates on-run, rather than in the background, but frankly yes if they had a commercial offering I think they have the brand trust to make this work

They have that trust because all the software installed by homebrew is open source.

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#45

Found an old thread involving the Google Keystone tech lead: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21065504

This is why dates on articles is so important. I can’t tell if this website is newer or older than that response so I can’t tell if this is a problem today or was a problem that was resolved

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#46
post #2

It sucks because Chrome is so much better usability wise than all those others. I wish they would just fix whatever this keystone trash is, and leave that to stonehenge

What does Chrome do better than Safari?

Runs on my computer.

(not a big fan of chrome though)

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#47
post #29

The author went so far as to create a domain for this rant, and yet didn't even do any performance metrics or basic forensic analysis at all. I'm not saying the author is wrong, but there's a lot of questions here. How does Keystone hide itself from the Activity Monitor? Is there a Keystone process if you run `ps aux`? Did you run dtruss/strace? What is it doing when Chrome isn't running that causes it to degrade per…

Possible correlation and hand waving equals causation. I, too, was hoping for something, well, technical. Considering #1 on hacker news...

That this is so high right now is quite reflective of HN.

It's nearly an exact match of the meme like utterance often seen on reddit: "chrome bad".

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#48
To make an argument of this scale you have the burden of proof. There is no proof here past casual correlation.

An analogy I see here is the scene from an old film where a woman walks behind a wooden screen and a goose walks out thus the woman is a shape shifting witch.

Re: Chrome Is Bad

#49
post #29

The author went so far as to create a domain for this rant, and yet didn't even do any performance metrics or basic forensic analysis at all. I'm not saying the author is wrong, but there's a lot of questions here. How does Keystone hide itself from the Activity Monitor? Is there a Keystone process if you run `ps aux`? Did you run dtruss/strace? What is it doing when Chrome isn't running that causes it to degrade per…

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Re: Chrome Is Bad

#50
Hm. I figure I'll give it a try. I have stability/slowdown issues, but I don't attribute it to anything more than I'm a native software/device control developer, and often running dodgy, hacked-together tools. I generally have to do a "deep cleaning" of my system once a year or so.

I do often have a windowserver hang.

I don't really use Chrome much (just for testing, or the odd times that a site won't work on Safari). Not a big deal for me to rip it out.

If it were a tool that I use all the time, though, I might be more comfortable with a posting that had a bit more detail.

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