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Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Post by degyves » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 11:59 PM UTC

armatav wrote: post #57

degyves wrote: post #53

I'm native indigenous from Oaxaca, Mexico, home of several sacred ceremonies with magic mushrooms and other plants from millennia. I'd like to share that our Native Nations do not give permission for scientific research of magic mushrooms outside our culture. This is not an egoistic stand, but it is for your own safety. Sacred plants on pharma and marketing industries hands will only create more damage than good. If…

I think these things grow in many more places than yours.

Growing anywhere is not enough reason to use something. A lot of things are available anywhere but not all of these will be safe for your community. Sacred plants are more complex than the individual impact. It has consequences on your society and this is why its management is by law restricted to native nations.

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Post by hn_asker » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 7:50 PM UTC

degyves wrote: post #53

I'm native indigenous from Oaxaca, Mexico, home of several sacred ceremonies with magic mushrooms and other plants from millennia. I'd like to share that our Native Nations do not give permission for scientific research of magic mushrooms outside our culture. This is not an egoistic stand, but it is for your own safety. Sacred plants on pharma and marketing industries hands will only create more damage than good. If…

There is wisdom in communities that use sacred plants. I hope one day western culture will realize this respect for communities such as yours but also across the world. So much of western culture is based on money and consumption. It really is the root of western ills.

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Post by hn_asker » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 7:52 PM UTC

standardUser wrote: post #27

I just hope the older generations who adamantly and mindlessly insisted that "all drugs are bad" live long enough to feel the deep shame they deserve for causing so much harm and preventing so much joy and much-needed help to so many millions and millions of people.

The older generations definitely helped Big Pharma. I just hope these new treatments free us from the antipsychotic/antidepressant pseudoscience.

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Post by hn_asker » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 8:02 PM UTC

The factors contributing to the rise of psychadelics are due to the "push" away from western practice of treating mental illness with books like "Anatomy of an epidemic" by Whitaker and screenings like https://medicatingnormal.com/watch/.

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Post by jrace » Sat, Dec 12, 2020, 11:29 PM UTC

bigbubba wrote: post #41

Scoundreller wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh Canada. Where the natural way is illegal, but the synthetic way with designer psilocybin analogues is totally legal!

> designer psilocybin analogues Is that what 'dried mushrooms' means in Canada?

No, not at all.

Many (non legal) mail or marijuana websites now offer dried mushrooms. Legit real psilocybin mushrooms, not synthetic.

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Post by PEOPLEgetoff » Sun, Dec 13, 2020, 2:47 AM UTC

Interesting and impressive move!

Doesn’t that type of mushroom grow in fields where cattle poop?

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Post by dang » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 5:03 AM UTC

standardUser wrote: post #27

I just hope the older generations who adamantly and mindlessly insisted that "all drugs are bad" live long enough to feel the deep shame they deserve for causing so much harm and preventing so much joy and much-needed help to so many millions and millions of people.

I'm late to this comment but please do not post unsubstantive flamebait like this, and especially not generational flamewar, which is one of the last things we need here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Post by okareaman » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 5:12 AM UTC

I did 3 sessions of MDMA therapy with a therapist in the underground community in Santa Cruz in the 90's, which later became the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS) https://maps.org/ who now work with veterans with PTSD. I had experience with psychedelics, but none with MDMA. All I can say is ymmv. I was underwhelmed by the experience. Later I would go on to do CBT, DBT and Wisemind, and CPT [1] for PTSD and those actually worked really well. I think MDMA combined with those therapies might have been even better. CPT was particularly helpful to confront the abuse I suffered. [1] Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Dialectic Behavioral Therapy & Wisemind, Cognitive Processing Therapy

Re: Some doctors, therapists get Health Canada permission to use magic mushrooms

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Post by sleepysysadmin » Tue, Dec 15, 2020, 1:44 PM UTC

Merman_Mike wrote: post #3

Are there accounts of what it's like to use psilocybin in a clinical setting? I'm imagining tripping in a therapist's office. Doesn't sound very pleasant.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robinseatonjefferson/2019/09/12...

John Hopkins is investigating this. The ethics boards will pretty much require that people be monitored during the intoxication. So yes, probably something along the lines of getting high in a therapist's office.