This is 2.5% of the total adress space - not usable, total. It's about the equivalent of 6.25 class A (/8) prefixes. Quite impressive.
I dont think that's impressive. I think it means something is wrong with governance.
Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
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Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#132Let's use IPv6 more and it'll worth far less than $2B.
The problem with IPv6 is that it's a fundamentally flawed design. Which looks easier to input / dictate over the phone / write down somewhere? 220.12.30.01 or 2001:cdba:0000:0000:0000:0000:3257:9652?
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I think it would. Because despite the obvious business advantage they have, any would-be competitor would need IPs at a similar scale. That will either cost a ton more than Amazon has, or they simply won’t be available. I own 2048 IPv4’s myself and their value is ever increasing. Like digital real estate, without the fluctuation of crypto. But I would prefer it if IPv6 would take over IPv4, and fast, because it…
> I own 2048 IPv4’s myself and their value is ever increasing. I own several /22's, and are renting them out through a broker. So far, 1 months rent (easily) covers the yearly RIR costs, so quite a good margin, and I still own them. So when time comes, I can sell them, but before that, rent keeps coming in. Just need to make sure they are sold before the market value of an IPv4 crashes to zero.
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#134A small nitpick: They don't "own" these addresses, the regional internet registries (ARIN, RIPE, APNIC etc.) loan them to Amazon so they can use them, they could take them away again if AWS would do something that's against the RIRs' policies. We also have a single /22 block of addresses from RIPE (we were one of the last companies to get such a block in 2019), so far we haven't made use of it though as it's still a…
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#135Let's use IPv6 more and it'll worth far less than $2B.
The problem with IPv6 is that it's a fundamentally flawed design. Which looks easier to input / dictate over the phone / write down somewhere? 220.12.30.01 or 2001:cdba:0000:0000:0000:0000:3257:9652?
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
What are they doing?
Industry leaders like NordVPN and ExpressVPN may engage in P2P routing (to use residential IPs especially) to unblock services like Netflix and Disney+ [1]. HolaVPN unapologetically does this too [2]. All of this is discounting the new-age dVPNs like Orchid (not quite the Tor replacement that was promised? [3]) and Mysterium [4]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21664692 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?…
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#137Let's use IPv6 more and it'll worth far less than $2B.
The problem with IPv6 is that it's a fundamentally flawed design. Which looks easier to input / dictate over the phone / write down somewhere? 220.12.30.01 or 2001:cdba:0000:0000:0000:0000:3257:9652?
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I think it would. Because despite the obvious business advantage they have, any would-be competitor would need IPs at a similar scale. That will either cost a ton more than Amazon has, or they simply won’t be available. I own 2048 IPv4’s myself and their value is ever increasing. Like digital real estate, without the fluctuation of crypto. But I would prefer it if IPv6 would take over IPv4, and fast, because it…
It wouldn't take too much to make a breakdown of IP announcements. Ownership is a bit harder to track down, I think. Looking at something like https://bgp.he.net/AS32934#_prefixes will tell you what IPs Facebook announces. Rinse and repeat for whoever else. Maybe a bit tricky if you need to track down subsidiary ASes. Disclosure: I worked for WhatsApp including while it was part of Facebook, and was involved in getti…
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#139Let's use IPv6 more and it'll worth far less than $2B.
The problem with IPv6 is that it's a fundamentally flawed design. Which looks easier to input / dictate over the phone / write down somewhere? 220.12.30.01 or 2001:cdba:0000:0000:0000:0000:3257:9652?
Re: Amazon owns more than $2B worth of IPv4 addresses
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
It wouldn't take too much to make a breakdown of IP announcements. Ownership is a bit harder to track down, I think. Looking at something like https://bgp.he.net/AS32934#_prefixes will tell you what IPs Facebook announces. Rinse and repeat for whoever else. Maybe a bit tricky if you need to track down subsidiary ASes. Disclosure: I worked for WhatsApp including while it was part of Facebook, and was involved in getti…
What does AS stand for in this context? An internet search didn't prove to be very useful.