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The Problem with Sencha Touch and PhoneGap

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Re: The Problem with Sencha Touch and PhoneGap

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Post by greendestiny »

cmelbye wrote: post #6
lukifer wrote: post #4

My own PhoneGap-based iPad app is going really well so far, practically indistinguishable from native, but for one thing: WebKit refuses to let you have manual control over hiding and showing keyboards. (I tried filing a bug, and it was closed as "works as intended".) This makes me feel like I have one hand tied behind by back when creating UI flow, and it's maddening.

Do you have a link to your app? I'm really interested in seeing web apps that work similarly to native apps, I've yet to see a great example yet.

I'm working on a phonegap app at the moment. I definitely wouldn't say it looks native - I haven't really tried for that - but it is fast. You do have to be very careful about performance issues, but phonegap does make it exceedingly easy to incorporate native code if that is required. I would say, purely as a limited anecdote, that jquery mobile and other frameworks just weren't really fast enough for the performance I wanted to see.

Re: The Problem with Sencha Touch and PhoneGap

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Post by chc »

truthtechnician wrote: post #3

The irony is... running back to native platforms because the web sucks is exactly why the web still sucks.

I'm skeptical. You're saying that if more application developers just allowed their apps to suck, the Web would somehow become a better platform for that kind of application? I don't see how that follows.

Re: The Problem with Sencha Touch and PhoneGap

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Post by lukifer »

greendestiny wrote: post #11
cmelbye wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have a link to your app? I'm really interested in seeing web apps that work similarly to native apps, I've yet to see a great example yet.

I'm working on a phonegap app at the moment. I definitely wouldn't say it looks native - I haven't really tried for that - but it is fast. You do have to be very careful about performance issues, but phonegap does make it exceedingly easy to incorporate native code if that is required. I would say, purely as a limited anecdote, that jquery mobile and other frameworks just weren't really fast enough for the performanc…

Are you using any Javascript plugins at all? Regular jQuery, Zepto, Backbone, etc?

Re: The Problem with Sencha Touch and PhoneGap

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Post by lukifer »

cmelbye wrote: post #6
lukifer wrote: post #4

My own PhoneGap-based iPad app is going really well so far, practically indistinguishable from native, but for one thing: WebKit refuses to let you have manual control over hiding and showing keyboards. (I tried filing a bug, and it was closed as "works as intended".) This makes me feel like I have one hand tied behind by back when creating UI flow, and it's maddening.

Do you have a link to your app? I'm really interested in seeing web apps that work similarly to native apps, I've yet to see a great example yet.

Alas, it's still under development, several weeks away from release at best.

The biggest reason it feels native is that I'm attempting very little imitation of the iOS interface chrome. Other than a menu bar at the top and some text boxes as needed, everything is touchable graphics. It doesn't look or act anything like a web page; for instance, the click "shadow" never appears, and you can't scroll the page out of bounds (although there's a WebKit input box bug with that, too).

Re: The Problem with Sencha Touch and PhoneGap

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Post by greendestiny »

lukifer wrote: post #13
greendestiny wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm working on a phonegap app at the moment. I definitely wouldn't say it looks native - I haven't really tried for that - but it is fast. You do have to be very careful about performance issues, but phonegap does make it exceedingly easy to incorporate native code if that is required. I would say, purely as a limited anecdote, that jquery mobile and other frameworks just weren't really fast enough for the performanc…

Are you using any Javascript plugins at all? Regular jQuery, Zepto, Backbone, etc?

Regular jquery, jqote2, Kelvin Luck's jquery date picker, jquery autoresize plugin (though its not really working out so far) and all the phonegap javascript functionality.
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