Google: Go ahead and hack the Chrome Book • Hacker News Board

Re: Google: Go ahead and hack the Chrome Book

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Post by MatthewB » Wed, May 11, 2011, 10:12 PM UTC

mquander wrote: post #10

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Wow, their PR guys did a number on you. Not only did they not encourage it, they threatened lawsuits! "Microsoft does not condone the modification of its products," a company spokesperson told CNET. "With Kinect, Microsoft built in numerous hardware and software safeguards designed to reduce the chances of product tampering. Microsoft will continue to make advances in these types of safeguards and work closely with l…

I know they were hesitant at the very beginning but quickly changed their minds...guess I was wrong.

Re: Google: Go ahead and hack the Chrome Book

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Post by robryan » Thu, May 12, 2011, 2:11 AM UTC

mquander wrote: post #10

[deleted] wrote: post #6

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Wow, their PR guys did a number on you. Not only did they not encourage it, they threatened lawsuits! "Microsoft does not condone the modification of its products," a company spokesperson told CNET. "With Kinect, Microsoft built in numerous hardware and software safeguards designed to reduce the chances of product tampering. Microsoft will continue to make advances in these types of safeguards and work closely with l…

Yeah I laughed at a conference when a Microsoft exec brought it up as a strong point that the Kinect has developed an ecosystem of hacking for interesting alternate uses.

Re: Google: Go ahead and hack the Chrome Book

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Post by stcredzero » Thu, May 12, 2011, 3:23 AM UTC

What really matters isn't what people can install or not. What really matters is if people can remotely verify if it's still locked or it's jailbroken. This gives organizations and users a choice to install whatever they want, or to have a verifiable environment.

It also gets you out of Sony's losing position, where you get neither security and you piss off people who have the technical knowledge to make your life harder.

Re: Google: Go ahead and hack the Chrome Book

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Post by jrockway » Thu, May 12, 2011, 7:45 AM UTC

cosgroveb wrote: post #4

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"Bucking the trend"? I can't think of a single x86 laptop in existence that's locked down.

I'm talking about consumer devices in general. XBOX, PS3, iPhones, carrier locked Android phones, iPads, you name it. Also, this is not an ordinary x86 laptop. I think most people would assume that considering that you cannot by default install anything on it, and that it has a verified boot sequence (will not boot an unsigned OS by default) that it would be completely locked down.

I think your list is the end. I can microwave metal. I can put a newspaper in my toaster. I can submerge my hairdryer in water and be amused as it pumps the water around.

Most consumer devices can do whatever you want. It's just gaming consoles and phones that can't. Everything else... do whatever you want.

Hell, handguns are still legal in the US, and you can use those to do some mighty antisocial dealings.