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But for the time it looked OK, especially on the typical bedroom 14" CRT.
He wasn't stating how it looked for the time, he was comparing it to star trek: the next generation, which used models and was shot on film while even high budget CG was still in its infancy.
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Yes, it's not either/or. The web is a kind of meta-OS with a very minimal and simple API, and as far as the web is concerned everything in userland operates as a thin-client. The OS is only of interest locally. By the mid-90s I was furious with both Microsoft and Apple for setting computing back by at least a decade. You could - with extreme effort - make an Atari ST multitask. And of course with the Amiga it was bui…
> So why did we throw that away and go backwards to DOS and then single-process Windows - which eventually reinvented multitasking nearly a decade later and sold it as if it was the most astounding development in the history of computing? Because cheap commodity harware, a single Intel CPU controlling everything, won out over an expensive custom multi-chip solution. Every Amiga model was a new model, with large amoun…
So after 7 years, all we had were expansion slots and faster CPUs. The OCS -> ECS chipset upgrade was very minor. That's basically it.
Finally, at the end of 1992, the AGA machines (Amiga 1200 and 4000) were released. We finally had upgraded graphics that didn't even keep pace with SuperVGA. The A1200 was also totally gimped with no fast memory and a slow 68020 that was now over 8 years old...
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Narrowing your understanding to the kernel delivered with the UNIX variants that I mentioned, only reveals lack of understanding of what the user and developer experience feels like in such OSes. Hint, it goes beyond doing CLI applications and daemons. BeOS is 25 years older and 25 years younger than UNIX, yes modern.
>Hint, it goes beyond doing CLI applications and daemons. So please tell me then. All Unixes have more or less the same FHS, Solaris did nothing different as..lets say BSD in the User-space nor did Irix, so tell me what did Solaris or Irix and even Nextstep fundamentally different then any other Unix? >BeOS is 25 years older and 25 years younger than UNIX, yes modern. Yeah lets stop here, it's getting ridiculous.
Irix had Inventor.
NeXT had the mach kernel, drivers written in Objective-C, Renderman, EOF, WebObjects, DisplayPostscript.
Ridiculous is putting up with certain clueless people online that don't have any idea of what they are talking about.
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>Hint, it goes beyond doing CLI applications and daemons. So please tell me then. All Unixes have more or less the same FHS, Solaris did nothing different as..lets say BSD in the User-space nor did Irix, so tell me what did Solaris or Irix and even Nextstep fundamentally different then any other Unix? >BeOS is 25 years older and 25 years younger than UNIX, yes modern. Yeah lets stop here, it's getting ridiculous.
Solaris had NeWS, ToolTalk, OpenLook, the only UNIX alternative to Windows IO complementation ports, explored the idea of Java based kernel drivers. Irix had Inventor. NeXT had the mach kernel, drivers written in Objective-C, Renderman, EOF, WebObjects, DisplayPostscript. Ridiculous is putting up with certain clueless people online that don't have any idea of what they are talking about.
>explored the idea of Java based kernel drivers
They even made a Java OS a Browser and a Chip, we all know what a stupid decision that was, you could have say ZFS which is against the unix philosophy (one program one job) but you forgot that i think.
>Irix had Inventor.
Windows had paint, and Mac the almighty HyperCard...but that's NOT the Operating-system nor does it make any difference Unix-wise.
>NeXT had the mach kernel, drivers written in Objective-C
Ahh, now you bring the kernel argument i already brought, yeah drivers written in the beloved Objective-C (is that a feature or a User-space thing?)...you know Multics was made with EPL waaay earlier.
They are pure and certified Unixes (not NeXT, but MacOS X is/was), based on Unix ideas..basta.
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AMOS! I swapped my copy of Easy AMOS with a school friend's copy of AMOS Professional. It set me on a path to becoming a professional software engineer. (Later, I swapped AMOS for Amiga E. Anyone remember that?)
Sure, I loved Amiga E, coded some utils (still up on aminet) and even some demoscene stuff (file packer, music-disk and slideshow for a friend's art).
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Chromium does this on Linux (at least I assume a three finger trackpad tap is middle click). IIRC, Qt apps show a menu with a "scroll to here" option.
Gtk supports it, at least via Mate it does. The Qt menu convention is copied from Windows, which I think is silly. SGI got it right.
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> to this day every time we have a conversation he make an Amiga reference. The Amiga was so far ahead of its time that there hasn't been anything else comparable. I lived through that time and I reference it a lot as well because so many things today are based on the Amiga or still aren't done as well as they were done on the Amiga.
The Amiga was far ahead on several fronts including digital audio and video, but the Atari ST was the platform of choice for midi using musicians. A couple of today’s biggest DAWs (Steinberg Cubase & Apple Logic) have their roots on the Atari ST.
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The Amiga was far ahead on several fronts including digital audio and video, but the Atari ST was the platform of choice for midi using musicians. A couple of today’s biggest DAWs (Steinberg Cubase & Apple Logic) have their roots on the Atari ST.
There's always one in the crowd who can't resist bringing up MIDI. It's as if that's all the Atari ST achieved.