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Re: Google Alternatives

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Currently shopping for an email host. For 2-3 accounts, Protonmail is pretty pricey, compared with tutanota... I've heard good things about protonmail, but does anybody have experience with tutanota or any of the other alternatives listed?

I'm very happy with Runbox.

Re: Google Alternatives

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"Best" is a subjective measure. For a lot of people being tracked all around the internet is a non-starter. I would also argue that a lot of Google products have stagnated and are not the best on offer anymore. Hey and Protonmail for mail, Notion for docs/keep, and Sync for file syncing come to mind, but of course that's just me :)

Not all Google products are best in class, but search and maps definitely are, along with a handful of others. Keep wouldn't make that list.

Google Maps is best in class for POI search and driving directions. It certainly isn't for walking or cycling.

Re: Google Alternatives

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I tend to imagine that year-2005 Google search is a tutorial-level web app today. Was Google search 15 years ago really bad by today's standards? With my biases, I remember that Google search was pretty good by 2005 (and much more predictable and configurable than nowadays). Why is there almost no competition and innovation in this space, apart from rebranding Bing search as Duck Duck Go?

Because it is very hard to build an index with the size of the web.

Re: Google Alternatives

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There's also Almonit (I'm one of the creators), which is a decentralized search engine that looks like a Google alternative, but it only searches decentralized websites, so it's not. almonit.eth.link/ Almonit is based on IPFS and it would actually be interesting to make a real Google alternative based on the idea of IPFS.

I can't seem to find anything on it. Even searching for Hacker News [1] returns 0 results

1. http://almonit.eth.link/#/results/?q=hacker%20news

Re: Google Alternatives

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Maybe it's just a joke by Google? Showing a reddit conspiracy ( no results for /r/conspiracy ) if somebody searchs for 'reddit conspiracy'.

That would be funny, but there are other examples like that. Pick any community towards the "right" and you will probably get the same result. i.e. search 'reddit dark enlightenment' Again first result on DDG, no result on Google.

I checked Wikipedia : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

It's a bit more than "towards the right" IMHO. I don't mind this reddit community being ignored by Google Search.

Re: Google Alternatives

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is location history really turned off or do they keep profiling you but just dont show you? there is no way to know since its all closed source

It really is turned off. Companies like Google get huge fines when they break their promise -- even accidentally.

> Companies like Google get huge fines when they break their promise -- even accidentally.

Source?

Facebook has used phone numbers given exclusively for 2FA purposes for targeted advertising and got away with merely a slap on the wrist considering their revenue.

Facebook also collected data for years from their trackers but only relatively recently started exposing that to users (with their "Off-Facebook activity" page), which means that for 2 years they were in breach of the GDPR by not allowing people access to their own data and incriminated themselves (by now providing that webpage which proves they've collected this data for years). They are yet to be investigated & fined for this.

GDPR and privacy regulation enforcement is still a complete joke.

Re: Google Alternatives

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Does Safari sync your data to icloud? If so, it can be secretly subpoenaed.

This is false: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202303 End-to-End encrypted data section: Safari History and iCloud Tabs (requires iOS 13 or later)

How is the E2E key exchange done? As far as I know the key exchange is mediated by Apple, which means they could decrypt the data if they wanted to.

Re: Google Alternatives

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> I'll consider Google alternatives when there is a better alternative. Sure, you do you, nothing wrong with that. I'd rather use 'inferior' technology if that means better privacy standards.

Google provides decent security/privacy controls, see my comment on how to turn them on [1]. If you have any specific concerns, I'd love to learn more and see if there's anything I can help. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25383289

This assumes Google is acting in good faith, and I find that hard to believe when Google's consent prompts are intentionally annoying and not GDPR compliant (for reasons outlined in another comment of mine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25373600) and they used dark patterns like intentionally disabling functionality such as saving specific locations when location history is disabled in Google Maps.

Re: Google Alternatives

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You found what you're looking for on the first page and on the first try for both. IMO that's a resounding success.

Not in 2020. A simple keyword match, even if weighted, is no longer enough. The engine needs to grok the context of a query. Chances of someone's using a generic query to find a blog instead of a vendor's site are basically zero.

As you said it depends on the context, I agree, but thus the chances someone's using a generic query to find vendor independent resources like blogs are not zero. With regard to the given example "nrf wifi", I'd prefer DDG's results as I usually know the manufacturer of the hardware I work with but often search for solutions to problems in context of that hardware. Furthermore depending on familiarity with domain names it's possible to deduce the manufacturer's website from GP's 9th result on DDG.
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