20 years from now. Sony acquires Kissanime.
Why did Kissanime die but crunchyroll succeed?
They never intended to go legal in the first place, and the lawyers eventually got them.
Sony acquires anime streaming service Crunchyroll
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#83A billion dollars is not bad for a site that started as a fake-it-til-you-make-it piracy site. I only know the story 4th-hand. But, my understanding is that it started as a user-upload site (I.e. piracy with disclaimers). And, of course, the seed users were actually employees with puppet accounts pirating media to their own site. That kicked off real users who competed on getting the highest quality subtitle jobs upl…
> Do not recommend this business plan.
There are so many examples pro and con. Theranos is a good example of both, weirdly enough. Although it all ended rather badly, and in a spectacular way, it worked well (for certain interpretations of that word) for a long time before that. If they were able to actually leverage the billions they got into materializing the technology claims they made, they would have survived, and the crooks at the helm would still be extremely famous and well off.
That's probably worth considering when thinking about the people at the helm of a lot of these large companies, especially the ones that lose money quarter after quarter until they eventually don't. That's not a position that seems like it rewards integrity.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know if there's just that: Many French anime physical release, especially those handled by the now dead Déclic Images (they started selling something they did not have the right for as a counter-offensive against those that bought the rights, if I remember well), are quite cheap. And are soft-subbed. To the point where I often hear it as an explanation of why so few animes get DVDs in France. But at the same…
>they started selling something they did not have the right for as a counter-offensive against those that bought the rights, if I remember well They've sold several series without having the rights and nobody would work with them anymore.
Oh, did not know there had been other series in this case.
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I think that Crunchyroll was successful because Japanese media companies considered the US market a joke. The companies that distribute anime in Japan never tried to sell into the US, they just assumed we weren't interested. Crunchyroll could then show up, say they had some customers willing to pay, and decided $LOW was better than $FREE. It's still this way; you can buy anime box sets in the US for an entire series…
> It's still this way; you can buy anime box sets in the US for an entire series that costs less than a single episode in Japan. Clearly you have never bought anything published by Aniplex of America (not that I'd blame anyone for that). PERSONA5 the Animation Blu-ray is $300 (allegedly down from $400 retail) for 28 episodes. https://www.rightstufanime.com/PERSONA5-the-Animation-Blu-ra...
Do most japanese people actually consume these series like this or use some free broadcast / website to see it with ads like most TV is done? Or far cheaper rentals?
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> It's still this way; you can buy anime box sets in the US for an entire series that costs less than a single episode in Japan. Clearly you have never bought anything published by Aniplex of America (not that I'd blame anyone for that). PERSONA5 the Animation Blu-ray is $300 (allegedly down from $400 retail) for 28 episodes. https://www.rightstufanime.com/PERSONA5-the-Animation-Blu-ra...
Do most japanese people actually consume these series like this or use some free broadcast / website to see it with ads like most TV is done? Or far cheaper rentals?
I imagine most Japanese people just watch it on TV / record it. I believe DVRs are still popular in Japan. The 12th most popular TV/video product on Amazon.co.jp is a 1 TB Panasonic Blu-ray recorder.
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#87Bigger news in anime today is Chainsaw Man TV adaptation in development by MAPPA ;)
and the part 2 of the Manga
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know if this is true, but I read somewhere that Pornhub/Mindgeek was a "fake-it-til-you-make-it piracy site", and still is for studios that aren't active about takedown requests, except with their money they were able to buy a lot of the IP from studios that had shut down due to streaming.
A recent video by youtuber We're in hell actually covers this quite well imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEYB02EZtVs
Ah so I was right! I didn't expect to be watching a 48 min youtube commentary video, but here I am.