German court forces mail provider Tutanota to insert a backdoor • Hacker News Board

Re: German court forces mail provider Tutanota to insert a backdoor

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Post by 542354234235 » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 4:35 PM UTC

matheusmoreira wrote: post #100

542354234235 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Computers are extensions of people's minds and I expect them to be equally inviolable. This is not a statement of fact and is generally a minority opinion.

So my opinion doesn't matter just because I'm part of some minority?

If you want your opinion to be taken seriously or be seen as credible, you should probably back it up of justify in some way, rather than just stating it as if it is a fact. The thing is, I agree with you but I understand that it is not the general opinion of most people. I think it is important to explain and justify the very significant shift in thinking about what is “the mind”.

Re: German court forces mail provider Tutanota to insert a backdoor

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Post by welterde » Wed, Dec 09, 2020, 8:54 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #45

bgorman wrote: post #12

I was planning to migrate to Tutanota, I guess I will not be doing so after all

Realistically speaking, is there jurisdiction where this isn't a threat? Most governments allow for wiretaps (basically what this "backdoor" is) when there's a warrant, so I'm not sure what the alternative is. Not even self-hosting works because they can seize your server/ip/domain name and install a backdoor there.

Doing this without being noticed will be somewhat difficult to do though.

Passive sniffing is likely not going to be enough since opportunistic TLS usage is on the rise..

Re: German court forces mail provider Tutanota to insert a backdoor

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Post by account42 » Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 9:02 AM UTC

upofadown wrote: post #50

giancarlostoro wrote: post #2

Encryption is the only thing that forces law enforcement to use warrants, without it it's just a wild wild west of privacy abuse. I do hope we see more services crop up, and new methods for people to encrypt email outside of specific services, maybe better plugins for Thunderbird or something, hell I'd easily pay for such a plugin if someone else can communicate back and forth with me through it and it is encrypted.…

I doubt that Thunderbird would want to go back to a plugin for PGP. They just moved that support into the program with S/MIME.

You mean they just broke the plugin without providing adequate built in support.