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Re: Chromebook

#171

- browses web? check. - runs the latest fad games, like Angry Birds (and more soon thanks to WebGL)? check. - can connect digital camera and upload photos? check. - can browse facebook, twitter, youtube, gmail, hotmail, etc? check - can play flash games & netflix, hulu, & other crap? check. This will satisfy the needs of all my immediate non-techy family members. And I won't get the monthly calls about malware anymor…

I get your point overall, but to nitpick, can it play Netflix? Netflix uses Silverlight, not Flash.

Netflix & Hulu were specifically mentioned in the keynote. Presumably, they'll use the same backend (MP4?) that iOS uses (as it doesn't have Flash or Silverlight, either).

Re: Chromebook

#172

- browses web? check. - runs the latest fad games, like Angry Birds (and more soon thanks to WebGL)? check. - can connect digital camera and upload photos? check. - can browse facebook, twitter, youtube, gmail, hotmail, etc? check - can play flash games & netflix, hulu, & other crap? check. This will satisfy the needs of all my immediate non-techy family members. And I won't get the monthly calls about malware anymor…

I personally find the Angry Birds-Facebook-Netflix picture of the future of computing extremely depressing. Where's Google's suite of content creation apps that "non-techy" people can explore to express their creativity?

I doubt Google envisions this as the "future of computing", but just the logical step following more and more people using their laptop almost solely for browsing. For those, never having to worry about viruses, boot-up time, losing data or about installing updates is great. And from my own observation, that includes a large part of the population.

Re: Chromebook

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I personally find the Angry Birds-Facebook-Netflix picture of the future of computing extremely depressing. Where's Google's suite of content creation apps that "non-techy" people can explore to express their creativity?

What are you looking for, specifically? There are a plethora of web apps for content creation available. There are also a variety of image editing & drawing apps in the Chrome Store (and a basic drawing app in GApps). Edit: If you want iMovie, you want a Mac. My family doesn't use iMovie (though I do personally, but the ChromeBook isnt't for me), they use YouTube video tools & Facebook video crap.

A video editing app, for example.

Re: Chromebook

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And those people don't know what Google Docs are either. And when they get an Excel document where charts don't render correctly, or comments are screwed up, or pivot tables don't work against their datasource, they'll be POed. Or when all their friends are playing WoW and they realize that this device doesn't play it. Or when they want to Skype with their grandkids they realize, they can't do that. Or when they take…

> And those people don't know what Google Docs are either. And when they get an Excel document where charts don't render correctly, or comments are screwed up, or pivot tables don't work against their datasource, they'll be POed. What's wrong with the Office Web Apps? http://office.microsoft.com/en-ca/web-apps/ > Or when all their friends are playing WoW and they realize that this device doesn't play it. Nobody expec…

> What's wrong with the Office Web Apps?

The same thing that is wrong with all web apps, they are way, way less functional than their desktop counterparts. Crippled, you might say.

Web Word is missing things that I learned in Grade 2, like spacing options. Average users do actually care about this stuff.

> Nobody expects epic graphics to run on this.

Don't talk to many WoW players, eh? It runs on anything, and they will run it on anything. Most have a netbook they use to play on the go. WoW runs quite well on them with settings turned down.

> if it does, cool! but that's NOT why you bought a "net"book.

You're going to tell other people why they bought a computer and what they want to use it for? No wonder you have no problem forcing Chrome OS on your friends and family.

> It has a web cam. Do they have gmail accounts?

Installed userbase matters. You might be able to switch your grandma over to a Google video solution, your friends are just going to laugh, and tell you to get Skype like everyone else. They aren't going to sign up for another service, install, learn and troubleshoot another app just to talk to you.

> Photo editing isn't an expected activity for these devices.

Um, yes it is. You seem to have a lot of weird preconceptions about netbooks based off the name. They are PRIMARILY used to browse the web, but that is not their only usage at all. People use them for all light duty tasks, and simple photo editing counts.

> Please listen to everyone else here; you and your friends are not the target market for this device.

That isn't where he was speaking from. I could be wrong but I didn't pick up his intense need for Office & WoW from his comment, he sounded like someone who actually listens to what average users want instead of trying to tell them what they want from the point of view of what is easier for you, which is a trap many techies fall in.

> Don't suggest this device is a failure because you alone can't find someone who wants to just use the web.

Actually, I'm going to do exactly that. I've encountered tons of users through help desk work and independent consulting. I haven't met a single person that JUST uses their browser. This person doesn't exist in decent numbers, it's why MIDs failed as well.

Re: Chromebook

#175

- browses web? check. - runs the latest fad games, like Angry Birds (and more soon thanks to WebGL)? check. - can connect digital camera and upload photos? check. - can browse facebook, twitter, youtube, gmail, hotmail, etc? check - can play flash games & netflix, hulu, & other crap? check. This will satisfy the needs of all my immediate non-techy family members. And I won't get the monthly calls about malware anymor…

If that's all they're doing, how are they getting malware?

Browser/plugin exploits, fake but convincing anti-virus warnings that prompt for user action, bloatware (all the software that wants to add browser toolbars), trojaned add-ons, etc.

Re: Chromebook

#176

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Is that a cause or an effect?

I think it's probably an independent variable. Most people work, and would have to create in their free time - but that takes sincere effort during a period most people want to unwind.

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Re: Chromebook

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I personally find the Angry Birds-Facebook-Netflix picture of the future of computing extremely depressing. Where's Google's suite of content creation apps that "non-techy" people can explore to express their creativity?

Most people don't create. You must be depressed by the wasted potential, because we're going from a world where most people don't create to a world where most people don't create.

"Most people don't create"

...and ChromeOS would change that? Availability of tools is not something that needs to immediately follow daily use.

Not all my family cooks. We still have a kitchen.

Re: Chromebook

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Google is still planning on making Chrome OS installable on other hardware, right? I already have a thin and light laptop that I'm pretty happy with - hopefully I can install Chrome OS from an image onto it to tinker with.

http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/ you can try it now you can try the whole thing on a compatible laptop when the chromiumos builds are the same as the chromeos these ship with.

Is there an official build planned though? Or is Google only planning on supporting "official" hardware?

Re: Chromebook

#179

- browses web? check. - runs the latest fad games, like Angry Birds (and more soon thanks to WebGL)? check. - can connect digital camera and upload photos? check. - can browse facebook, twitter, youtube, gmail, hotmail, etc? check - can play flash games & netflix, hulu, & other crap? check. This will satisfy the needs of all my immediate non-techy family members. And I won't get the monthly calls about malware anymor…

I personally find the Angry Birds-Facebook-Netflix picture of the future of computing extremely depressing. Where's Google's suite of content creation apps that "non-techy" people can explore to express their creativity?

Here's an awesome music creation app for non-techy people:

http://www.beatlab.com/

Here's a great photo/picture editor:

http://www.pixlr.com/

Those are just off the top of my head.

Re: Chromebook

#180

- browses web? check. - runs the latest fad games, like Angry Birds (and more soon thanks to WebGL)? check. - can connect digital camera and upload photos? check. - can browse facebook, twitter, youtube, gmail, hotmail, etc? check - can play flash games & netflix, hulu, & other crap? check. This will satisfy the needs of all my immediate non-techy family members. And I won't get the monthly calls about malware anymor…

If that's all they're doing, how are they getting malware?

Email? Removable drives/CDs? Visiting the wrong websites? File sharing? I'm not sure how it gets there, but sure enough it does. A lot.
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