It’s Time to Embrace Kubernetes Really?

There should be more of a boilerplate very stable version for smaller companies but I think in general Kubernetes makes it really easy to automate away a lot of the ops and security stuff and get app pipelines running pretty quickly which is really nice.

Re: It’s Time to Embrace Kubernetes Really?

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Post by nickthemagicman » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:03 PM UTC

I kind of don't understand why people don't use managed K8's and avoid needing to pay ops people to manage their setup.

One can learn the developer side of K8's in a week or so enough to be deploying apps and setting up services and pods without the overhead of managing etcd and distributed clusters.

Re: It’s Time to Embrace Kubernetes Really?

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Post by nickthemagicman » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:03 PM UTC

alexfromapex wrote: post #4

There should be more of a boilerplate very stable version for smaller companies but I think in general Kubernetes makes it really easy to automate away a lot of the ops and security stuff and get app pipelines running pretty quickly which is really nice.

Managed K8's right?

Re: It’s Time to Embrace Kubernetes Really?

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Post by lyptt » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:08 PM UTC

One thing I've found about k8s is running a cluster can be very costly, and using a managed cluster on one of the big three clouds is even more so. Also, when rolling your own cluster it requires a lot of elbow grease to get things in a working state, and even more to keep things working.

It feels awesome from a developer standpoint once you work out all the kinks. It's very natural describing your service with a bit of yaml, and then being able to then spawn it into your infrastructure and have it automatically scale out.

If there was a cost effective k8s cluster you could rent then that would be the thing that finally kills traditional infrastructure for me.

Re: It’s Time to Embrace Kubernetes Really?

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Post by politelemon » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:09 PM UTC

I found this to be actually quite a well balanced take. There are quite a lot of useful considerations in here which I don't often see in HN discussions about k8s, as it's usually from people well invested in that ecosystem now.

Some of our teams have been drifting naturally towards ECS Fargate and found it to be a great fit. Almost invariably the k8s question comes up, and it's usually a reaction to the popularity of k8s and EKS. It's quite easy to start doubting your own well thought-out decisions in the face of a large popular elephant sitting in your rooms which wants to trample on everything.

Re: It’s Time to Embrace Kubernetes Really?

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Post by rhacker » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:12 PM UTC

lyptt wrote: post #7

One thing I've found about k8s is running a cluster can be very costly, and using a managed cluster on one of the big three clouds is even more so. Also, when rolling your own cluster it requires a lot of elbow grease to get things in a working state, and even more to keep things working. It feels awesome from a developer standpoint once you work out all the kinks. It's very natural describing your service with a bit…

That's the exact same feeling I get too. If I'm a mom/pop shop online, why can't I get a k8s cluster w/just 1 machine for $5/month? I mean the big three (4 w DO) can all get you a bare machine for $5/mo that can run Docker. Why not give the k8s management side for free for those people?

Re: It’s Time to Embrace Kubernetes Really?

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Post by throwaway201103 » Thu, Dec 10, 2020, 7:13 PM UTC

nickthemagicman wrote: post #5

I kind of don't understand why people don't use managed K8's and avoid needing to pay ops people to manage their setup. One can learn the developer side of K8's in a week or so enough to be deploying apps and setting up services and pods without the overhead of managing etcd and distributed clusters.

When your site or app goes offline it can be handy if you have ops people who understand your setup.