I think the whole thing is flawed. Why? Because criminals and other people who do overall negative things to society as a whole are obviously going to skew averages of dark personality traits down, decrease their average "success/happiness" score. This means that there might exist productive people with "dark personalities" who might very well be much more productive than "light personalities", but this won't come ou…
Are people with dark personality traits more likely to succeed?
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#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mother Teresa chose to fly to Dar es Salaam not to help the poor, but to "attended the consecretion Monday of seven nuns of her Missionaries of Charity order". https://apnews.com/article/56dc5fdab8fcf949ee6dc4a4f4e9947b You are as quick to forgive her of any responsibility for her voluntary actions of self-promotion and religious indoctrination, as wolfretcrap was to condemn the poor for the responsibility of their m…
God is an absolute, the source of all. The concept includes being responsible for the death of people in unfortunate circumstances. I don't see the idea that you are somehow above God because you identified that some people died in unfortunate circumstances. I don't "forgive her". I say there is a truth you have thrown under a bus. She didn't self promote, she was serving a purpose under a larger story. People suffer…
This is a discussion about psychopathic people being able to conceal it, and fool gullible people into literally believing they're saints. Of course she relentlessly self promoted and grandstanded -- that's what she was doing when she attended a nun consecration ceremony (which she didn't need to do, and didn't help the poor) and decapitated innocent people with the propellers of her private charter airplane, killing two children, and a man who ran a home for lepers, then she arrogantly claimed it was a Miracle from God that SHE survived. How narcissistic can you possibly get?
Do you or don't you agree that Mother Teresa is a psychopath, and if you disagree, how do you square it with the facts that Hitchens and others raise? (Without attacking the messenger, address the FACTS.)
The spectacle of you trying to defend her with mumbo-jumbo, without contesting any of the widely know and documented facts about her, simply proves my point that she fooled a lot of gullible people who refuse to be swayed by the facts, including you.
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#213To start, I'll define what I view "dark traits" to mean personally to me. They mean having an internal moral system where it is acceptable to harm others in some ways. The more harm a person is willing to do, the more we generally label those people with the personality traits that we say are "dark". There is some measure of psychology that would indicate that many such people who we label that way have neuro-atypica…
Can I ask for an example? If can be presented anonymously
> I don't think any of these studies are able to easily "detect" me
I agree. Is it a bit weird that the researchers didn't add any notes about this
(Or if they did i didn't see that)
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Did you just use white as a description for a group of people on the dark personality dimension?
Don't forget "And most men." Not only is it overtly racist, it's blatantly sexist too. It's amazing how that comment is not flagged and banned as hate speech or flamebait. But this is HN.
That's not an attempt to downplay or excuse anything but an attempt to understand the underlying causes of problems better since that is a prerequisite for addressing them effectively.
It's beyond me how the statement "most men are actually nice people" could be interpreted as sexist in any way.
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I'm not saying they are equal parts light and dark. I do think it is dangerous and misguided to apply binary thinking to complex individuals. While there are psychopaths and sociopaths in this world, in the overwhelming majority of cases, your boss/coworker/rival of the moment is not one of them.
You don't have evidence for this. You are simply viewing others as a reflection of yourself. If there are people at the tail end of the spectrum there must be people in between people who are centered and people who are extreme. Where and how these groups aggregate is hard to measure experimentally but it is clear that humans can lie and if they are not in the center of the spectrum and more evil than normal than lik…
Some people are not psychopathic but get labeled as if they are because of a lack of understanding. Others truly do have psychopathic tendencies. Even then, they are people first, and I'd wager they are a product of environment in more cases than not.
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God is an absolute, the source of all. The concept includes being responsible for the death of people in unfortunate circumstances. I don't see the idea that you are somehow above God because you identified that some people died in unfortunate circumstances. I don't "forgive her". I say there is a truth you have thrown under a bus. She didn't self promote, she was serving a purpose under a larger story. People suffer…
You haven't refuted even one of Hitchens' claims. All you're doing is trying to redirect and distract from them. Reciting a Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap label at me doesn't prove your point, it just shows you're irrational. And now you're making straw man arguments falsely accusing me of having the idea that I'm somehow above God. That's a non-sequitur. Where did you get that from??! Why do you have to just make shit up,…
You reject the very concept of the religion you criticize. If you have a problem with magic soap labels then I can agree, I don't believe magic soap labes matter too. That's not what religion is.
I fail to see how attending a religious appointment is a crime. Did she skip out on handing out food? Did she miss her chance to pass out medicine? What concrete thing could she have done to save her people?
Your post is way over the line of sanity. Being angry that religion exists in the face of suffering isn't a valid criticism of theresa. Criticize the lack of solutions to the problem, by the people who were responsible. The rest is insane bleatings.
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#217The older I get, the more I realize how many problems in the world are caused by the dark personality spectrum. Most men, police officers, priests, white people, catholics, politicians, or Germans are actually nice people who wouldn't harm anybody even if given the chance. A lot of the abuse that was done by these groups, be it towards women, ethnic minorities, children, or police brutality, was most likely done by s…
Did you just use white as a description for a group of people on the dark personality dimension?
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#218Earlier quoted context omitted.
You haven't refuted even one of Hitchens' claims. All you're doing is trying to redirect and distract from them. Reciting a Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap label at me doesn't prove your point, it just shows you're irrational. And now you're making straw man arguments falsely accusing me of having the idea that I'm somehow above God. That's a non-sequitur. Where did you get that from??! Why do you have to just make shit up,…
I don't know what to say. Your post doesn't make sense. She didn't fly the plane into people by her own hands. She didn't order her pilot to murder people in a failed bid to take-off. You reject the very concept of the religion you criticize. If you have a problem with magic soap labels then I can agree, I don't believe magic soap labes matter too. That's not what religion is. I fail to see how attending a religious…
We're having a discussion about psychopaths with dark personality traits who deceive people into thinking they're saints, and Mother Teresa is the archetypical textbook example of that. Do you have any evidence to the contrary? Can you prove Christopher Hitchens' criticisms are wrong? All you've contributed so far is serving as an example of somebody who refuses to look at the evidence and was gullibly fooled into believing a terrible person is actually a saint. Which was my point. Thank you!
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I don't know what to say. Your post doesn't make sense. She didn't fly the plane into people by her own hands. She didn't order her pilot to murder people in a failed bid to take-off. You reject the very concept of the religion you criticize. If you have a problem with magic soap labels then I can agree, I don't believe magic soap labes matter too. That's not what religion is. I fail to see how attending a religious…
You obviously haven't listened to any of Hitchens' or anyone else's criticisms of Mother Teresa, since you refuse to address or refute any of them. Funny how somebody who believes in invisible ghosts and resurrection and chants magic soap labels but doesn't believe in science or cause and effect will accuse somebody else who does of insanity. You're the deranged one arguing that the poor should suffer to help the wor…
Tilting at windmills here..
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You obviously haven't listened to any of Hitchens' or anyone else's criticisms of Mother Teresa, since you refuse to address or refute any of them. Funny how somebody who believes in invisible ghosts and resurrection and chants magic soap labels but doesn't believe in science or cause and effect will accuse somebody else who does of insanity. You're the deranged one arguing that the poor should suffer to help the wor…
I've listened to hundreds of hours of Hitchens. I liked him. I asked you for concrete refutations, which are implicitly based in science. Tilting at windmills here..