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Re: Ask HN: Losing all interest in programming, what now?

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This kind of sounds like depression or anxiety, which most everyone has to some extent now. Loss of interest in normal activities is a key symptom. I've heard that mental health professionals are still trying to figure out how much to pathologize the very bad but mostly normal responses people are having to 2020. Everyone that's having issues should talk to their doctor and/or see a therapist. They know what they are…

You can also buy a motorcycle. It's cheaper that therapists in the long term.

I'm fairly sure a motorcycle could have not had the discussions with me I had with my therapist.

The whole point of therapy is not that they are superhuman who can fix the world. The point is having another person, whom you trust, and who has experience of how to help people, to take a good look at you. They discuss with they see, and suggest simple things you could do. The thing is - nothing is stopping you doing those things without a therapist. But you likely are not aware what the specific single things to help you are. Otherwise you would be doing those, and not needing a therapist.

Re: Ask HN: Losing all interest in programming, what now?

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This sounds like the beginnings of burnout or depression... do you find joy in anything else? Does anything motivate you? I went through this for about 3 years after my divorce. I couldn't find motivation or joy in anything. I turned to helping other people solve their problems because at least I was helping others to get through what I couldn't figure out how to get through myself. There was a lot of time spent in r…

> I turned to helping other people solve their problems because at least I was helping others to get through what I couldn't figure out how to get through myself.

Do you consider this to be a good thing? Doing the same now, and wondering if it’s okay.

Re: Ask HN: Losing all interest in programming, what now?

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This is perfectly normal. Software programming is all but commoditized at this point unless you're in some super specialized field.

Personally, I've been considering some sort of sales role in the future. Those people seem to be way over paid, better paid than me anyway and I'm doing okay. Note, this would be at a major firm rather than a startup.

Re: Ask HN: Losing all interest in programming, what now?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This kind of sounds like depression or anxiety, which most everyone has to some extent now. Loss of interest in normal activities is a key symptom. I've heard that mental health professionals are still trying to figure out how much to pathologize the very bad but mostly normal responses people are having to 2020. Everyone that's having issues should talk to their doctor and/or see a therapist. They know what they are…

You can also buy a motorcycle. It's cheaper that therapists in the long term.

As someone who has motorcycled in the past...

Naw. It ain't going to be cheaper. More adrenaline causing perhaps, but not cheaper. Between buying accessories, upgrades, and different styles, you'll be paying them off for awhile.

One a more serious note: Riding a motorcycle won't cure depression. Depression, on the other hand, can make you not want to motorcycle anymore.

Re: Ask HN: Losing all interest in programming, what now?

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Have you thought about getting in to an architect or customer facing role? These roles are just as crucial to a business as programming is.

I was just about to type this. I've noticed as I get older both literally and career wise, I enjoy guiding where the code goes and letting more jr members work towards those goals while helping to improve their programming/soft eng practices. It's very rewarding.

Re: Ask HN: Losing all interest in programming, what now?

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This has happened to me after a 20 year career and successful side business. Instead of fight it, I accept it and look at it as a natural part of growth, not stagnation. It opens up the possibility for you to take your job for what it is—a job—and explore new hobbies and interests. If nothing is interesting, take a break from trying and play video games or watch tv for a year. Youre going to bump up against a lot of…

Well said. And that's great thing about a hobby - you don't have to be good at it, nor does it have to make you money.

Re: Ask HN: Losing all interest in programming, what now?

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I find the

This sounds like depression

Comments unhelpful.. sure, it might be. But it's so general. And what do you do, treat it with therapy, diet, exercise and meds

While undoubtedly useful and necessary, we can find such diagnoses and treatment anywhere.

It elides the personal nature, and ignores specific causes.

The story was touching. I can't offer advice, because it's your life, but i can share what helped me.

When i got bored with boilerplate, i made my own frame works to make the boilerplate mine and bearable.

I made tools i love to use.

This made it better and less boring.

When i lose interest in things or feel I'm losing my spark...i consider what am i not saying that i really feel. How am i not living my true authentic life.

And then i start closing that gap. Saying what i want to say. How i really feel. Doing what i want to do.

It's not easy. Bridges sometimes are burned. Connections lost. Opportunities declined.

But i feel i get closer to the life i really want. And that let's me feel lighter and want to get up everyday and enjoy it. When I've got confidence my choices will lead me to a path that i will increasingly like, instead of feel like they're trapping me in one that i don't want.

I'm also careful with my diet. And double these efforts when I'm feeling off. Minimize processed foods, and increasing vegetables.

And meditating and relaxing.

I find this keeps me balanced, centered and me. And then what i want to do occurs natrally.

And i just follow some ideas i have. And don't try to start something that will be too hard for me or take me too long.

If i don't want to do something i don't do it.

Like i said, not advice, because it's your life, your choices and you're different to me, and i don't want the karma nor the responsibility of affecting your path.

But just sharing what helps me, because maybe they can inspire you and help let you feel things can be okay.

Re: Ask HN: Losing all interest in programming, what now?

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This kind of sounds like depression or anxiety, which most everyone has to some extent now. Loss of interest in normal activities is a key symptom. I've heard that mental health professionals are still trying to figure out how much to pathologize the very bad but mostly normal responses people are having to 2020. Everyone that's having issues should talk to their doctor and/or see a therapist. They know what they are…

You can also buy a motorcycle. It's cheaper that therapists in the long term.

This is better advice than most will admit. If it's still too expensive, maybe try a Onewheel =)

Re: Ask HN: Losing all interest in programming, what now?

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I'm going to keep it very simple; tell yourself you're not going to program for two whole weeks. You may feel uncomfortable letting yourself go, but it will give you a much needed break and you will come back more energized.

Speaking a bit more anecdotally, what worked for me when I facing a similar problem was shutting off the computer immediately after work and allowing myself to relax and prioritize other hobbies. I was watching more documentaries and vlogs, as well as going outside and hiking on the weekends as opposed to being bunkered down at my desk. This opened my eyes to what there really is in life, and I now view programming almost completely differently as a result, but in a sustainable, healthy way. I slowly built my passion back up, but not as compulsively as before. I don't program just to program anymore, which actually makes me more efficient.

I know your struggle and I wish you the best. Accept you need time off and it will get so much better.

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