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Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

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Post by 495636483 »

csunbird wrote: post #39
aequitas wrote: post #2

> The father of the first user, who while everyone was discussing, went to the shop and bought the cheapest lightbulb. Of course it doesn't end there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbSehcT19u0 (lightbulb scene from Malcolm in the Middle).

I think the term for that is "Shaving the Yak" https://seths.blog/2005/03/dont_shave_that/ (I am not associated with this site)

I like the term "Yak shaving", however the story told was quite anticlimactic. Yak at a zoo? Really?

Why not go all the way to Tibet. (Acknowledging the exclusive western perspective here. I fail to think of an analogy for the west...)

There is an opportunity missed pointing out the ignored complexity of related implied conditionals (like flying across the globe), which were consequently not exploded onto the described stack. That is, within the narrative. Missed, because the scope of conditional complexity is pretty much arbitrary (point in the reader's resonance); "importance" is mostly a matter of subjective perception merely experienced as rational thoughts. Every egosyntonic thought is experienced as rational.

Internal task prioritization is part of executive functioning and e.g. broken in ADHD (everything feels important). However, it's perceived as consistent with the internal model of reality and not foreign (aka egosyntonic; "rational") no matter the expression and functional applicability.

There is the problem. It's not a question of better thinking or simple rules for analysing a problem, it's a problem asking for an hypervisor, who cares about time management/energy expenditure, not reasonability. For some people an instance can be internalized, or even just works out-of-the-box; for others it needs to be externalized.

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

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Post by lrossi »

arderary wrote: post #79

1 to suggest replacing the lightbulb with systemd-lightd

After which you have to follow the straightforward systemd service troubleshooting procedure:

  systemctl is-system-running
  systemctl list-units
  systemctl list-units -t service --all
  systemctl list-units --state failed
  systemctl is-failed light.service
  systemctl status light.service
  systemctl show light.service
  journalctl -u light.service
  systemctl restart light.service
  journalctl -u light.service
  systemctl stop light.service
  SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL=debug /lib/systemd/systemd-lightd
  journalctl -u light.service
  reboot
  systemctl --force reboot
  echo r > /proc/sysrq-trigger
  echo e > /proc/sysrq-trigger
  echo i > /proc/sysrq-trigger
  echo s > /proc/sysrq-trigger
  echo u > /proc/sysrq-trigger
  echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

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Post by balabaster »

cheaprentalyeti wrote: post #88

I remember back in the old days there was a whole stack of this sort of joke. It started with "How many electrical engineers does it take to change a lightbulb?" "We'll fix the problem in software!" "How many software engineers does it take to change..." All the way through to "How many Microsoft executives does it take to change a lightbulb?" "Darkness. The new standard from Microsoft!" Bonus points for those who co…

"Darkness. The new standard from Microsoft!"

Thanks, you owe me a new keyboard... and incidentally, a new cup of tea :D

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

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Post by segfaultbuserr »

bombcar wrote: post #66
jankotek wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not so funny with modern IoT, maybe firmware upgrade is needed or restart wireless router :)

People used to laugh that "reboot your phone/car" was humorous, now "reboot your lightbulb" is a real action that has to be taken at times.

One quote from the list of BOFH excuses (of the early 2000s, https://gist.github.com/chuckwagoncomputing/ff980f81482b5894...) was:

> Firmware update in the coffee machine

It isn't funny any more...

> https://support.smarter.am/hc/en-us/articles/115005135369-My...

> In case your Smarter Coffee machine has become stuck while updating, please follow the steps below to manually perform the firmware update...

- Turn product off at the wall.

- Press and hold the 2 left buttons on the control panel.

- Turn the power on at the wall and keep holding the two buttons for 10 seconds.

- The "Update" screen should then appear. (Check this has appeared on the screen, good news if it has!)

- Connect to the "Update" network and wait for it to connect. (Check that the signal bars at the top of the iPhone screen are there, this can take up to 55 seconds)

- Open the Smarter app

- Select "update" firmware either via the 'pop-up' or from the 'About' page

- Select 'next', it will take you to the page where it tells you to connect to update network.

- Close and open the app ONCE.

- Press next

- It should update...

- Once it reaches 100%, the coffee machine screen will say "Loading" while it reboots.

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

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Post by geocrasher »

DonHopkins wrote: post #45

Q: How many Northern Californians does it take to change a lightbulb? A: Hella!!! Q: How many Southern Californians does it take to change a lightbulb? A: Totally!!! https://escholarship.org/uc/item/6492j904 Hella Nor Cal or Totally So Cal?: The Perceptual Dialectology of California Mary Bucholtz, Nancy Bermudez, Victor Fung, Lisa Edwards and Rosalva Vargas. Journal of English Linguistics 2007; 35; 325. DOI: 10.1177/…

In conversation recently, I told somebody "I'm from Southern California. This means I talk fast and say 'man' and 'dude' a lot."

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

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Post by aequitas »

bombcar wrote: post #68
rozab wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That slide is just shocking. Freddie Mercury? It's like this sketch but real life https://youtu.be/y8OnoxKotPQ

What's scary is Hue bulbs are some of the MORE performant of the IoT stuff I have - and work when offline. That second part is the key - so much stuff is designed "cloud first" and that introduces lots of delays and errors when the Internet isn't working perfectly.

Or simply deny to work without an internet connection, like Chromecast, even though you just want to stream local content when your internet is down.

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

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Post by fbeans »

csunbird wrote: post #39
aequitas wrote: post #2

> The father of the first user, who while everyone was discussing, went to the shop and bought the cheapest lightbulb. Of course it doesn't end there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbSehcT19u0 (lightbulb scene from Malcolm in the Middle).

I think the term for that is "Shaving the Yak" https://seths.blog/2005/03/dont_shave_that/ (I am not associated with this site)

"Shaving the Yak" is great. However I often think of the MITM video when in these situations; and personally refer to it as "Hal's Tangent" which has a kind of philosophical/mathematics feel to it.
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