Honestly who care about cookies. All those popup are just anoying.
I care. That's why I block them, of course.
But yes the popups suck. And of course there's an interest in ad companies of making the popups as obnoxious as possible.
French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Typical Google. Let us not even get started with the impossibility of loading Google in private mode without needing to agree to everything. Rejecting all is a dance that takes more time and mental resources than the amount i want to spend for the few times I want to turn on private mode and search something. My colleagues have also declared defeat and just accept everything. Hope the fine bites.
And after Google, everyone else. I am so annoyed by sites making it a real struggle rejecting cookies. Most of the time, I just don't use those anymore. Not sure if that helps, so.
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#33OT, but I feel people who care about this perhaps knows the answer.
Is there a browser that pretends to accepts all cookies but never saves them?
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#34Everybody is so focused on 'cookies' as if the technology itself was regulated. The web developers (or marketing agencies or whatever) are also slow to learn what proper data protection means, and slap popups and banners on everything, making the web disgusting and regulations seem misguided.
A session cookie, especially after a login, may not require consent at all. Describe in your policy what personal data, if any, is tied to the session, and what you do with it. Most places collect and process only what is necessary to deliver a service and fulfill a contract. Let users read this policy and possibly contact you to make changes to their data.
Of course, this is not what happened here with Google and Amazon. In the meantime it is so unfortunate to see cookies becoming "illegal" taboo.
Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#35Google is fined 100 millions because tracking cookies are saved on the device before opting-in AND after opting-out, and because the cookie modal isn't clear enough. [1] Amazon is fined 35 millions for similar reasons, but the amount is lower because they acknowledged and fixed the issues in September 2020. [2] [1] https://www.cnil.fr/en/cookies-financial-penalties-60-millio... [2] https://www.cnil.fr/en/cookies-fina…
Typical Google. Let us not even get started with the impossibility of loading Google in private mode without needing to agree to everything. Rejecting all is a dance that takes more time and mental resources than the amount i want to spend for the few times I want to turn on private mode and search something. My colleagues have also declared defeat and just accept everything. Hope the fine bites.
There are lists in uBlock Origin to block these.
Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#36Google is fined 100 millions because tracking cookies are saved on the device before opting-in AND after opting-out, and because the cookie modal isn't clear enough. [1] Amazon is fined 35 millions for similar reasons, but the amount is lower because they acknowledged and fixed the issues in September 2020. [2] [1] https://www.cnil.fr/en/cookies-financial-penalties-60-millio... [2] https://www.cnil.fr/en/cookies-fina…
Typical Google. Let us not even get started with the impossibility of loading Google in private mode without needing to agree to everything. Rejecting all is a dance that takes more time and mental resources than the amount i want to spend for the few times I want to turn on private mode and search something. My colleagues have also declared defeat and just accept everything. Hope the fine bites.
If you mean the new Google consent popup, good uBlock rules for suppressing that: https://daniel-lange.com/archives/164-Getting-rid-of-the-Goo...
Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#37Honestly who care about cookies. All those popup are just anoying.
The legislation was to discourage tracking. Unfortunately it backfired and now the web is even more shit. Easy tracking, particularly via Google and ad networks, is considered so important to basically everyone that deploys it (metrics, revenue), that they feel it's acceptable to put the banners up, rather than develop a different way of gathering and managing the data they want.
The fines aren't large enough. Google Analytics is on 50% of all web content (I should research the actual figure). The fine should reflect the effect that has on Goog's revenue, rather than this pocket-money sum.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not quite sure if this is sarcasm ? The do not track header is about 10 years old, ans was promptly ignored by all websites DNT: 1 DNT: 0
Hrm fair point. I'm not sure DNT could have been repurposed to imply consent under much newer regulations, but you're generally right, this mechanism predated the EU regs and somehow was passed up.
"Somehow" is because there was nobody enforcing it, so nobody had any incentive to honor the request. Legislative approach is the only way to have an actual effect.
Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules
#39Everybody is so focused on 'cookies' as if the technology itself was regulated. The web developers (or marketing agencies or whatever) are also slow to learn what proper data protection means, and slap popups and banners on everything, making the web disgusting and regulations seem misguided. A session cookie, especially after a login, may not require consent at all. Describe in your policy what personal data, if any…
This isn't about the technology used. The issue is that the tracking is not disclosed to the end-user at all.
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#40Google earned more than 100 million with current solution (by automatically setting the cookie) and will earn much less by waiting for the user's approval... So maybe they just waited for the first fine...