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French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules

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Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules

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Post by that_guy_iain »

gpderetta wrote: post #8
bzb6 wrote: post #3

This cookie insanity has to stop. Instead of adding popups everywhere, users should’ve been trained to use the options of their browsers, which have existed for decades.

I did set DNT but I'm still getting tracked. I do not want to disable all cookies, I'm perfectly happy to use credential cookies or a shopping cart, I do not want to disable everything indiscriminately. Also I shouldn't have to out out.

We're at the stage now where they can reasonably reliably track you without cookies. I think we need to focus more on restricting what companies can do with data than focusing on asking users permission for things. Popup-hell doesn't help anyone in my opinion.

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Post by Zenst »

I can't help but feel that fines by countries of big corps is just so routine that it's probably part of the budget. Sure we see fines, but what happens to the money from the fines! Do they go to the users impacted - nope. Do changes happen as a result - slowly if at all. It's all kinda like some form of taxation upon the user/people as we all know any large fine upon a corporation - who ends up paying for it...the users/people..again.

Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules

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Post by ohgodplsno »

landerwust wrote: post #17
aenario wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite sure if this is sarcasm ? The do not track header is about 10 years old, ans was promptly ignored by all websites DNT: 1 DNT: 0

Hrm fair point. I'm not sure DNT could have been repurposed to imply consent under much newer regulations, but you're generally right, this mechanism predated the EU regs and somehow was passed up.

As it stood, DNT was used as an additional 1.5 bytes of identifying information: Yes/No/Not Set. To be then promptly ignored.

Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules

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Post by bzb6 »

Macha wrote: post #4
bzb6 wrote: post #3

This cookie insanity has to stop. Instead of adding popups everywhere, users should’ve been trained to use the options of their browsers, which have existed for decades.

Companies would still have to be mandated to respect said options, as when the voluntary DNT was added, companies went "lalala can't hear you"

Then they should’ve been fined for not respecting dnt

Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules

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Post by aquadrop »

orwin wrote: post #9
bzb6 wrote: post #3

This cookie insanity has to stop. Instead of adding popups everywhere, users should’ve been trained to use the options of their browsers, which have existed for decades.

DNT was made for this. In-browser, voluntary. How well did it work?

Better than cookies popups, at least it didn't create huge annoying thing.

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Post by dsnr »

Zenst wrote: post #22

I can't help but feel that fines by countries of big corps is just so routine that it's probably part of the budget. Sure we see fines, but what happens to the money from the fines! Do they go to the users impacted - nope. Do changes happen as a result - slowly if at all. It's all kinda like some form of taxation upon the user/people as we all know any large fine upon a corporation - who ends up paying for it...the u…

Right, I feel this is just a new source of income for governments. They seem to be too keen on handing out fines in those areas where it‘s simple to do so, but fail to act in other areas where the consumer is constantly being hurt e.g. right to repair, warranty laws, right to return digital products.

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Post by Lio »

gbersac wrote: post #24

Honestly who care about cookies. All those popup are just anoying.

Since you ask, I care about cookies.

If I visit a website like say, Instagram, they shouldn't leave any tracking before I've had a chance to read the privacy agreement, decide it's not for me and navigate away.

Sadly, that's exactly what they do and it's about time they were made to follow the GDPR, at least within the EU.

Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules

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Post by M2Ys4U »

aquadrop wrote: post #26
orwin wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DNT was made for this. In-browser, voluntary. How well did it work?

Better than cookies popups, at least it didn't create huge annoying thing.

The cookie banners being annoying is because these companies want it to be annoying so you don't pay attention and just click accept without actually learning what they do with your data.

Re: French watchdog fines Google, Amazon for breaching cookies rules

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Post by johnchristopher »

bzb6 wrote: post #3

This cookie insanity has to stop. Instead of adding popups everywhere, users should’ve been trained to use the options of their browsers, which have existed for decades.

Browser's UI for cookies is severely lacking though. It's been at least a decade since a browser asked me to store a cookie.
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