Live data from Hacker News

How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

gnu.org

21–30 of 184 posts

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

#21
post #12
post #4

Why is GNU/Linux still a thing? What’s the GNU bit of Linux?

Glibc which is linked by everything in userspace. Android is Linux but not usually gnu-linux as no glibc. Do any of the major distros use musl or any other libc in a meaningful way?

Alpine Linux is pretty heavily used in container space.

I've been considering using Alpine Linux or Void Linux as my main driver, though I haven't had a chance to investigate if it's a viable option.

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

#22
post #4

Why is GNU/Linux still a thing? What’s the GNU bit of Linux?

what people call "Linux" is much more "GNU" (system tools, commands, shell, system programms, libraries, stadards, conventions) and less "Linux" (only the kernel).

Linux sounds cooler.

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

#23
post #12
post #4

Why is GNU/Linux still a thing? What’s the GNU bit of Linux?

Glibc which is linked by everything in userspace. Android is Linux but not usually gnu-linux as no glibc. Do any of the major distros use musl or any other libc in a meaningful way?

Void and Alpine Linux.

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

#24
post #21
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glibc which is linked by everything in userspace. Android is Linux but not usually gnu-linux as no glibc. Do any of the major distros use musl or any other libc in a meaningful way?

Alpine Linux is pretty heavily used in container space. I've been considering using Alpine Linux or Void Linux as my main driver, though I haven't had a chance to investigate if it's a viable option.

I used Void/musl as the daily driver for a while; but I switched to the GNU libc version as I had to run VirtualBox for my (at the time new) job, and that doesn't work with musl libc (or perhaps it does with some workarounds/chroot/whatnot, but I couldn't be bothered).

There are some other things that won't work out-of-the-box either; such as the whole Widevine thing, or most Linux games from GOG.com.

None of this is musl's fault of course; but in general I found that for me, personally, running Void/musl on the desktop was too much effort with not enough benefit. I'm not a huge fan of GNU's libc, but it does work quite well overall.

I do use Alpine on my servers, and haven't had any issues there.

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

#25
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only most if not all of the software after you boot the kernel.

That's a bit of an exaggeration; Xorg isn't GNU, neither is Firefox, or a lot of other desktop and server applications and programming environments beyond gcc. It also depends heavily on the machine; if you use GNOME then you've got another big chunk of GNU in there, but in my case the only major part that I actually use frequently is GNU libc, a subset of the GNU coreutils (which I'd very much like to replace with s…

It also depends heavily on the machine; if you use GNOME then you've got another big chunk of GNU in there, but in my case the only major part that I actually use frequently is GNU libc, a subset of the GNU coreutils (which I'd very much like to replace with something better by the way), and maybe a few others libraries left or right used by some applications.

Isn't GNOME independent from GNU nowadays, it has its own foundation?

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

#27
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glibc which is linked by everything in userspace. Android is Linux but not usually gnu-linux as no glibc. Do any of the major distros use musl or any other libc in a meaningful way?

Void and Alpine Linux.

Void runs equally well with glibc (e.g. on my desktop).

I wonder if switching between musl and glibc makes it change the uname output between Linux and GNU/Linux :)

Re: How many GNU/Linux users are needed to change a light bulb?

#28
1 said it is ok to use the new light bulb but 350 said no because it is under gpl 3.0

1 said the whole thing using electricity is no good to earth and start to use solar based light system instead, and his web site on how to do got 10,000 comments in HN for commenting not the light bulb, but his using python static site.

Post reply on HN