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Sony acquires anime streaming service Crunchyroll

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anime fansubs have been around for 3-4 decades (ever since the early Amiga could overlay subs) and digital for 20+. Interesting that it worked out for them, unlike what happened with music distribution, and then the Napster/iTunes/Spotify evolution. Probably helped that there was only extremely slow and expensive legitimate distribution channels and actual work was required to make the content accessible in other lan…

I think that Crunchyroll was successful because Japanese media companies considered the US market a joke. The companies that distribute anime in Japan never tried to sell into the US, they just assumed we weren't interested. Crunchyroll could then show up, say they had some customers willing to pay, and decided $LOW was better than $FREE. It's still this way; you can buy anime box sets in the US for an entire series…

>It's still this way; you can buy anime box sets in the US for an entire series that costs less than a single episode in Japan.

Clearly you have never bought anything published by Aniplex of America (not that I'd blame anyone for that). PERSONA5 the Animation Blu-ray is $300 (allegedly down from $400 retail) for 28 episodes.

https://www.rightstufanime.com/PERSONA5-the-Animation-Blu-ra...

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This is interesting because it means the two big distributors of anime in the US are now one. It's creating a monopsony from the perspective of the anime studios, though I suspect a rival will emerge shortly.

Yes that's right AnimeLab is owned by Sony. I wonder if they are going to consolidate the two into one service. There is currently a lot of overlap between the two catalogues and I can't imagine that's good in the long term...

Doesn't Amazon have an anime-focused service? Or did that close down already?

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes that's right AnimeLab is owned by Sony. I wonder if they are going to consolidate the two into one service. There is currently a lot of overlap between the two catalogues and I can't imagine that's good in the long term...

Doesn't Amazon have an anime-focused service? Or did that close down already?

It died pretty much on the vine, although they still have a few licenses that got moved to Prime Video.

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A billion dollars is not bad for a site that started as a fake-it-til-you-make-it piracy site. I only know the story 4th-hand. But, my understanding is that it started as a user-upload site (I.e. piracy with disclaimers). And, of course, the seed users were actually employees with puppet accounts pirating media to their own site. That kicked off real users who competed on getting the highest quality subtitle jobs upl…

Wasn't this the path of YouTube also?

The predecessor to Twitch, justin.tv, started this way too.

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A billion dollars is not bad for a site that started as a fake-it-til-you-make-it piracy site. I only know the story 4th-hand. But, my understanding is that it started as a user-upload site (I.e. piracy with disclaimers). And, of course, the seed users were actually employees with puppet accounts pirating media to their own site. That kicked off real users who competed on getting the highest quality subtitle jobs upl…

Wasn't this the path of YouTube also?

YouTube was mostly creator submitted allowing a free and open platform, which is not heavily censored.

Re: Sony acquires anime streaming service Crunchyroll

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anime fansubs have been around for 3-4 decades (ever since the early Amiga could overlay subs) and digital for 20+. Interesting that it worked out for them, unlike what happened with music distribution, and then the Napster/iTunes/Spotify evolution. Probably helped that there was only extremely slow and expensive legitimate distribution channels and actual work was required to make the content accessible in other lan…

I think that Crunchyroll was successful because Japanese media companies considered the US market a joke. The companies that distribute anime in Japan never tried to sell into the US, they just assumed we weren't interested. Crunchyroll could then show up, say they had some customers willing to pay, and decided $LOW was better than $FREE. It's still this way; you can buy anime box sets in the US for an entire series…

Japanese and rights management and growth just don’t coincide in a same sentence without some negatives.

People pay great attention in discovering unfairness by random search and devising punishments for it ad-hoc, not much else. ATRAC3, Blu-Ray, it’s always the same; DRM makes product unusable, but technically fair, and as long as it’s technically fair and balanced, they don’t care even if a group of industries were sinking together.

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post #12

A billion dollars is not bad for a site that started as a fake-it-til-you-make-it piracy site. I only know the story 4th-hand. But, my understanding is that it started as a user-upload site (I.e. piracy with disclaimers). And, of course, the seed users were actually employees with puppet accounts pirating media to their own site. That kicked off real users who competed on getting the highest quality subtitle jobs upl…

Anime fansubs have been around for 3-4 decades (ever since the early Amiga could overlay subs) and digital for 20+. Interesting that it worked out for them, unlike what happened with music distribution, and then the Napster/iTunes/Spotify evolution. Probably helped that there was only extremely slow and expensive legitimate distribution channels and actual work was required to make the content accessible in other lan…

Back in the 90s I would send VHS tapes + some return postage money to get fansubs of animes not available in the US. It was an amazing community and no one took a profit from it.
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