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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by djur »

TMWNN wrote: post #873
armenarmen wrote: post #384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The liberal inner cores of Texas cities primarily grew up in these burbs and small towns, and know that despite being a MAGA bro, their uncle isn't satan incarnate. Compare that to the dirty looks I got walking around SF in a Buck-ees hat that happened to be red. It bordered upon comedy.

>Compare that to the dirty looks I got walking around SF in a Buck-ees hat that happened to be red. It bordered upon comedy. For those who doubt you, I ask them to ponder the following: Put on a "Make America Great Again" hat and walk through downtown Chicago, San Francisco, Ann Arbor, or Cambridge before or after election day 2016 (or 2020). Now, put on a "I'm With Her" or "Biden/Harris 2020" shirt and walk through…

You seem to think the answer to this is obvious, but it's sufficiently non-obvious to me that I don't even know which answer you're assuming.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by SrslyJosh »

11thEarlOfMar wrote: post #96

I was on the edge of the same decision. This move by the new district attorney in LA is so far beyond the pale that if it's not rescinded soon, I am gone too: "NEW: L.A. County DA George Gascon has issued a directive to prosecutors that the following misdemeanors will be declined for prosecution, with exemptions. -Trespassing -Disturbing the peace -Driving without license -Prostitution -Resisting arrest" This is an a…

> They'd be attracted to municipalities that they know will not prosecute them.

LOL, this makes as much sense as suggestions that members of $GROUP move to $STATE to achieve some political goal.

Do you have any idea how vanishingly small the number of people who can actually just up and move somewhere is?

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by djur »

Traster wrote: post #674
S_A_P wrote: post #158

Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…

>There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California No. There's a trend of rich people commissioning articles about them leaving california. Articles which provide literally zero evidence of a trend.

There was similarly a little mini-trend of rich people making a big show of renouncing their US citizenship in the Obama years, with probably a 10:1 ratio of articles to people who actually did it.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by CydeWeys »

windexh8er wrote: post #763
woah wrote: post #711

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worse than that: The entire concept of "luxury housing" is a lie. The words "luxury housing" are designed to make you think that it is taking up space that could be used by non luxury housing. Like the only reason a new apartment is so expensive is because it has a gold-plated toilet or something, and if only the developer had built an apartment without a gold plated toilet you could afford it. But in Minneapoli…

Minneapolis has had it's waves of pricing over the years. The hay day of build happened starting in 2005 and ran for the last 15 years leading up to where it is now. I lived in the Northloop on the front of the trendiness (pre-Target Stadium) and Uptown was still the land of said "hipsters" (such an unfortunate moniker). I can tell you that in 2010 I was paying more than $2000/month for a 2 bedroom there because supp…

The gain is that a lot more people get to live there now, which benefits all of those people. It no longer being for you is more than made up for by the fact that it is now for so many more other people.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by drawkbox »

Reminder that the only state in the US that does not recognize non-competes is California [1].

If you are starting a business California is still a place competition exists.

Non-competes are the most anti-business, anti-worker, anti-innovation and anti-American thing you can think of.

Non-competes are like fixed authoritarian markets that appear open but are actually nearly mafia state controlled by the existing players.

Sure once you get big you might want to lock down the gains, but while growing and disrupting the lack of non-compete recognition is a huge things for both workers and businesses.

The ban on non-competes should be nationwide and California has always had that pro-worker, pro-business, pro-market policy in place [1]. When the AG of a state is calling for that to be nationwide, you know you are in a place that values value creation without limitation or blocking competition.

[1] https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-bece...

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by nradov »

S_A_P wrote: post #158

Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…

My local south Bay Area school district had a large drop in enrollment for the 2019-20 school year. The district administrators track where students go based on record transfer requests and they told me the most popular out-of-state destination was Texas.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by dang »

messick wrote: post #152

Thank Christ. And don't come back.

Please don't do regional flamewar on HN. We're trying for something else here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Edit: you've unfortunately been breaking the site guidelines so much that I think we have to ban this account. If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by dang »

There are multiple pages of comments, accessible via the 'More' link at the bottom of the page, or click here:

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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by Rapzid »

ddoolin wrote: post #429
boringg wrote: post #171

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California still has every viewpoint that is imaginable though there does seem to be less space for far right. What's making everyone salty about Elon leaving is there was considerable amount of people who helped him build up in the state (i.e. state benefits, staff who worked incredibly hard for many years, consumers who bought his cars [drive in the bay area]) and he's peacing out, with a slap in the face to everyo…

Genuine question: how do states like Texas, Florida, etc. get by without taxing income? Do they not need that money for their operations? What is the difference between their government and California's? I figure Florida makes it up with their tourism industry but Texas decidedly does not have that.

By taxing the shit out of my property. I pay more in property tax in Texas than I did in income tax in CA. My property tax doesn't care how employed I am or how much money I'm pulling down either. It's probably going to nullify any appreciation on my home.

Lots of trade-offs.

P.S. Tourism's economic impact on my city in Texas was over 15b BC(before COVID).

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by claydavisss »

phobosanomaly wrote: post #809
tabtab wrote: post #520

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> The state has gone downhill on every metric possible. Mostly because it got more crowded. As a CA resident, if you don't like CA, please DO move out. It will help traffic, for one. If ALL you care about is a big house and taxes, then CA is probably not for you. As soon as you walk outside your TX McMansion, you may realize why CA is so crowded.

Yup. If you don't spend your weekends fly-fishing Big Pine Creek, 4x4ing the Mojave Road, climbing at Joshua Tree, grabbing burritos and craft beer at Grand Central Market, and swimming out to the mile-buoys at La Jolla Cove, why stay? If your eyes don't light up when you hear 'Clifton's Cafeteria,' or 'Pappy and Harriet's,' or 'half-day boat' what on earth are you doing here? This state is one of the most unique and…

"5th largest economy" has really only been a benefit to the 1%. For you it just means higher rent
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