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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by imgabe »

ddoolin wrote: post #849
imgabe wrote: post #772

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> nobody would want to live someplace where they democratically invest in their community (i.e., pay taxes) I don't think anybody has a problem with investing in their community, but when there's no return on an investment you cut your losses and move on. Tent cities, rolling blackouts, no healthcare, no public transportation. What are you getting for the taxes? I moved to Hong Kong this year. Public health care, ama…

Not discrediting your point, it's just that I'm not sure HK is a great point of comparison. How many people live in a room the size of a narrow walk-in closet? They have a massive, massive real estate problem in Hong Kong -- there is none left where people want to live.

It's true, real estate is expensive here, and apartments are small. I'm sure most of the people living in tents in California would be happy to have an apartment, though, even one the size of a walk-in closet. Is it better to have small apartments or thousands of homeless people living on the streets?

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by stjohnswarts »

unnouinceput wrote: post #831

Quote: "With a net worth of $134.7B, Musk recently surpassed Bill Gates as the second-richest person in the world, and he's on track to earn more than $50 billion in stock options. If he remained in California, he’d be facing income taxes on the profits when he exercises them. In Texas, there is no income tax. " Rest is blah blah, this right there is the real reason for such a move. Can't blame the man either, I'll d…

but why? I personally like Texas as a state more than California (terrain, weather, urban areas) but if I had that much money I wouldn't care if it was 80billion or 100 billion for God sakes how greedy can you be?

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by stjohnswarts »

m463 wrote: post #860
tyingq wrote: post #852

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No state income tax, but the property taxes in Texas are brutal. Typical sales taxes as well.

On the Joe Rogan podcast he has said he rents now.

Yep I was going to add this. It sounds like he doesn't care if he has 10 huge houses or not and renting works just fine for him. Although he should thinking about hedging with some real estate, but I guess he probably already does that :)

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by stjohnswarts »

S_A_P wrote: post #158

Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…

Personally I'm thinking about fleeing Texas for Colorado, so I think it's just up to the individual.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by swiley »

woah wrote: post #711
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If you don’t build luxury housing, affordable housing becomes luxury housing. San Francisco is a perfect example of NIMBY extremism and the damage it does to communities.

It's worse than that: The entire concept of "luxury housing" is a lie. The words "luxury housing" are designed to make you think that it is taking up space that could be used by non luxury housing. Like the only reason a new apartment is so expensive is because it has a gold-plated toilet or something, and if only the developer had built an apartment without a gold plated toilet you could afford it. But in Minneapoli…

Yeah, I live in a "luxury apartment" in an east coast city and pay less than that for rent.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by stjohnswarts »

reddog wrote: post #779
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I live in TX. I am very, very careful when I'm out in the sticks since the shitkickers are dangerous. I also lived in CA and even in the sticks out in central CA there's just nothing like the scale of xenophobic belligerence in rural TX (or the rest of the Bible Belt).

It goes both ways. Try walking around Town Lake in Austin (where I live) wearing a MAGA hat and the tell me how much more diverse and tolerant folks are in the big city.

try that with a Vote Republican hat instead of a symbol of the man trying to pull a political slow coupe currently. MAGA is about Trump and his inhumanity and not necessarily party affiliation.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by stjohnswarts »

Retric wrote: post #441
techsupporter wrote: post #277

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But that's rather my point: if you're living just in the larger metro areas, you're choosing to insulate yourself from the rampant discrimination and bigotry that, numerically, forms the bulk of the electorate and shape the cultural mindset. To be clear, that's not a bad thing that people make that choice; I would, were in that position. If Texas voters will finally vote in someone who is more like Ann Richards than…

Turnout says far less about political views than you might think. Voter suppression is a common and effective tool used to keep a political party in power even as they loose popular support. All it takes is realizing changing X rule like a deadline will help or hurt your party and then voting based on that rule. Eventually this can fail, which oddly enough tends to flip states so they can quickly go from solidly part…

Voter supression is certainly an important point, but it seems like people have completely stopped feeling responsible for elections too. Even in Texas we had nearly 3 weeks of early voting. If you can't find a way in 3 weeks to go put in a vote I don't know how much more you can help someone. Texas democrats could have beaten Trump here if everyone would have shown up and voted rather than complaining and staying home.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau »

monoideism wrote: post #244
boringg wrote: post #171

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California still has every viewpoint that is imaginable though there does seem to be less space for far right. What's making everyone salty about Elon leaving is there was considerable amount of people who helped him build up in the state (i.e. state benefits, staff who worked incredibly hard for many years, consumers who bought his cars [drive in the bay area]) and he's peacing out, with a slap in the face to everyo…

How do you describe "far-right"? Edit: the reason I ask the question is that I've noticed a trend among people from very left-leaning areas to define anyone slightly right of center as being "far-right". I've been called "far-right" because of beliefs that were typical of moderate Democrats in the 1990s. What label that leaves for people like actual Nazis, fascists, neo-Confederates, etc, I'm not sure. Far-far-far ri…

I've been called far-right simply because I praised trump for a single executive order.

The virtue signaling left has made it to the point that words don't mean what they should anymore because they crank things up to 100 every time they accuse anybody of anything.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #515
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How do you describe "far-right"? Edit: the reason I ask the question is that I've noticed a trend among people from very left-leaning areas to define anyone slightly right of center as being "far-right". I've been called "far-right" because of beliefs that were typical of moderate Democrats in the 1990s. What label that leaves for people like actual Nazis, fascists, neo-Confederates, etc, I'm not sure. Far-far-far ri…

We have a new lines drawn on acceptance for behavior towards sexuality, religion, women's rights and race since the 90's. The line has moved. The 90's was 30 years ago. I don't know your exact situation at all and criticism of you may indeed have been unfair. But for fucks sake don't try to make a case that you're not far-right by looking to the behavior of people in the past. That indicates strongly you may indeed h…

People today are no more morally superior to the people back in Roman times.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by mariojv »

betwixthewires wrote: post #807
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I was very close to moving to Austin this winter. I decided to double down in SoCal instead and buy property. I've spent a decent amount of time in Austin for work and have family nearby, but the weather and cultural opportunities won me over in California. I like that I can go to running on beach path, cycle in the mountains, carve canyons on a motorcycle, eat stellar sushi, sit in traffic :(, and walk down any down…

If you have severe allergies, there's nowhere in Texas that you'll be safe except for the far west desert.

I'm a fan of Texas, but this is unfortunately quite true. Even in West Texas, a lot of folks have trouble with the dust.
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