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Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by pompeirules »

BobbyJo wrote: post #989
romanoderoma wrote: post #986

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Thanks for the question. I'm saying it should be easy to solve for the richest country in the World given the sheer amount of resources it possess. It looks impossible for the same exact country, because the society there doesn't like the solution. Or to be more precise, they don't like being told that if other have solved it, they should just copy what the others have done. Looks like that if you try to teach Americ…

First, Japan's lower incidence of homeless is an anomaly mostly owing to the countries culture of extreme personal responsibility. If you've ever been to Japan you'd notice that extends to basically everything they do in public. Changing the culture of a melting pot of 300 million people is significantly harder than reading a wikipedia page. Side note (as someone whose been to Japan several times, and has several clo…

> Second, the US has a lower incidence of homeless people than many countries with much more generous social programs

US have 17/100k of population, Italy has 8.

We are not famous for being big on personal responsibility.

> Japanese homeless are very very homeless

They are 0.3/100k of population though or roughly 56 times less than US.

At that level the problem is solved, not completely, but at least the number the country has to deal with is manageable.

If US had the same share of homeless people of Italy (and they could do muuuuuuch better than us) they would have half of the homeless population.

Which is a radical improvement if you ask me.

> Third, the homeless rate in the US has been on the decline for decades.

Is it?

According to the stats it increased from 2018 onwards from previous years

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/09/18/surprisin...

Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by DSingularity »

BobbyJo wrote: post #983
Pet_Ant wrote: post #979

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An opportunity isn’t a choice. It’s more of a dice roll, and you don’t get to see the number.

It is by definition a chance to do something. If you don't get a choice, then you never had an opportunity.

If you think modern society provides equality of opportunity than you are delusional! There are those whom are born into wealth and those that are born into poverty. There are those who are born into college educated households and there are those who are born into high-school educated households. Some personalities are resilient enough to cope with the short end of the stick and others don’t know what hit them until they are 4 years behind — in math and science — those whom were born into better conditions.

Go volunteer to tutor at-risk middle school students if you don’t believe me. Many of them can barely read. Do you think they have an equal opportunity to successful higher education in fields that are worth getting degrees in?

Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by eikenberry »

aborsy wrote: post #576
eikenberry wrote: post #434

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The one thing people seem to keep forgetting about when talking about this race to the bottom is how hard it is to find good software authors. My company is fully remote and global and it is still really hard to find good people. I really don't see much of a change given the current unmet, and rising, demand.

I think you greatly underestimate global talent for some reason.

I think you greatly underestimate the global demand.

Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by [deleted] »

cultofmetatron wrote: post #990
burnthrow wrote: post #982

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I'm not the one who needs to travel to Colombia to get a date.

well, at least not only do I get to date these beautiful women, I also don't have to talk to people like you outside of internet forums :) That said, all the best and I hope you find some way to manage your anger. Life is way too short to live like a pressure cooker

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Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by jelliclesfarm »

callinOutLiars wrote: post #977
jelliclesfarm wrote: post #558

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200 acre tech village clusters in the mid west that are modern and sustainable islands. They can bring in capital and still not step on the toes of rural America if they don’t want to change the fabric of their society. It makes me uncomfortable to think tech population from Ca descending onto unsuspecting laid back mid western towns. Integration should be gentle and respectful and with consent.

With consent? Shouldn’t everyone have the right to move where they want? Others it sounds like segregation.

integration of silicon valley values with mid western values.

Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by labcomputer »

Apocryphon wrote: post #713
labcomputer wrote: post #705

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This is pre-Covid: > easily accessible nature From my office in Palo Alto, I can ride my bicycle up Sand Hill Road, past horse farms, and then up a secluded 2000 ft (~600 meters) mountain with virtually no traffic and return during my lunch break . Or I can take a long lunch and ride out to the coast, through rolling farmlands. And I can do that virtually any day of the year, thanks to the local climate. Most of the…

> Many places have some of what SV offers. Very very few have everything, and I would argue that none of the cities you listed fit the bill. Ah, but all of them have more affordable housing.

Ok, so what?

The premise was that there are lots of other places that have what SV has. And, by implication, that SV's high prices are unjustified.

I was merely pointing out that SV has an array of amenities that are found together in very few other places. And if you want what SV has, there are very few other places you can get it. Supply and demand. It's that simple.

Maybe you don't care about fancy restaurants or art galleries or spending time outdoors. That's totally cool. Maybe all you care about is finding the absolute cheapest apartment on planet earth. Again, knock your socks off.

SV doesn't have cheap housing. If that's all you care about, look someplace else.

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Post by Apocryphon »

labcomputer wrote: post #996
Apocryphon wrote: post #713

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> Many places have some of what SV offers. Very very few have everything, and I would argue that none of the cities you listed fit the bill. Ah, but all of them have more affordable housing.

Ok, so what? The premise was that there are lots of other places that have what SV has. And, by implication, that SV's high prices are unjustified. I was merely pointing out that SV has an array of amenities that are found together in very few other places. And if you want what SV has , there are very few other places you can get it. Supply and demand. It's that simple. Maybe you don't care about fancy restaurants or…

As an SV local, I am overly jaded about the place. South Bay is wonderfully boring suburbia to grow up to- and would be to raise a family, if not for the housing prices- and S.F. seems pitifully small, and everything closes so early for a supposed world-class city. Not to mention, BART ends before last call, which is just crazy. The outdoors here are great, but how many times can one climb Castle Rock, Mission Peak, or visit Angel Island, Rancho San Antonio, or Point Reyes? And Muir Woods is always full of tourists, it's like Disneyland in a forest.

Of course, the grass is always greener. But I think natives are entitled to grouse a little bit, given the circumstances. It's just a little scary if this is the best the U.S. has to offer.

"Despising, For you, the city, thus I turn my back: There is a world elsewhere."

Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by BobbyJo »

DSingularity wrote: post #992
BobbyJo wrote: post #983

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It is by definition a chance to do something. If you don't get a choice, then you never had an opportunity.

If you think modern society provides equality of opportunity than you are delusional! There are those whom are born into wealth and those that are born into poverty. There are those who are born into college educated households and there are those who are born into high-school educated households. Some personalities are resilient enough to cope with the short end of the stick and others don’t know what hit them until…

I come from poverty myself, and I couldn't agree more. I never said we are where we need to be. I was simply pointing out a difference in goals.

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Post by herbst »

medium_burrito wrote: post #775
xiphias2 wrote: post #331

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I tried to learn Swiss German, but gave up quite fast, it's just not my style. Also even people who came from Germany said that it's hard for them, and Swiss people never really take them in their social circle, that took away all my motivation. I could do everything in English though except the tax returns, it just didn't feel like home to me, so like many others I came away. Good luck fitting in for you when you ge…

I speak several languages fluently, so no big deal for me, but one of my talents is learning languages easily. The not fitting in is a way bigger deal in Switzerland. Germans will never be accepted, no matter what. Eastern Europeans aren't even considered people.

Then again as austrian o barely face any issues.

Re: Tech elites leaving San Francisco threaten Silicon Valley's supremacy

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Post by sutterbomb »

chao- wrote: post #899
sutterbomb wrote: post #866

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What’s a good neighborhood or two in Houston where it’s possible to do this?

The easiest in terms of pure transit is the corridor in Midtown along the Red Line. From about Alabama up to Downtown. Second is Montrose which for some people will have a cooler vibe. Within Midtown, the further North you go, there are a few more bars/clubs that make noise at night, so either live further South, live a few blocks East or West of the rail, or both. Huge amounts of apartment stock just came online in…

Thanks so much, appreciate it
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