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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Strange comments for HN. Elon moving has little to do with California vs Texas. This is totally expected from Elon, who likes to oversee new operations personally and whip everyone into shape. His "dislike" of California has little to do with it, but he's definitely going to milk it for all it's worth. I thought at least HNers would see through this easily.

Agreed. Elon just likes to stir the pot. He knows saying these things will get him headlines.

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We will be moving out of CA in the coming months. We are lifelong residents. We are leaving due to cost of living and especially quality of life for our children.

I would love to move out of CA in the coming months. My spouse is begging me to. If my job were to finally announce permanent, optional WFH for employees, I list my house for sale that day. Same complaints: cost of living / taxes, quality of life, and kids' education. The only thing keeping me here is my current job and clear opportunities for future [tech] jobs. If WFH became the norm, I'm out of here in 50 millisec…

I'm curious why you bought a house in California to begin with. The cost of living was similar in the last two decades.

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We have a new lines drawn on acceptance for behavior towards sexuality, religion, women's rights and race since the 90's. The line has moved. The 90's was 30 years ago. I don't know your exact situation at all and criticism of you may indeed have been unfair. But for fucks sake don't try to make a case that you're not far-right by looking to the behavior of people in the past. That indicates strongly you may indeed h…

The problem I have with this statement is recently(past 4-5 years) the left has gone extremely far in their beliefs and ideas. Take real life examples like - completely disbanding the police, emptying prisons, outlawing all criminal laws. Deciding that people of a certain race/social class are the cause of all problems. Destruction of city statues without due process. These ideas are dangerous for any functioning soc…

So much of what you just said is completely untrue. Not a single leading Democrat is calling for any of those things. Emptying prisons? Completely disbanding the police? Outlawing criminal laws? What does that even mean?

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I live in TX. I am very, very careful when I'm out in the sticks since the shitkickers are dangerous. I also lived in CA and even in the sticks out in central CA there's just nothing like the scale of xenophobic belligerence in rural TX (or the rest of the Bible Belt).

It can be surprising. Hell I'm from Louisiana and find it funny that people are just discovering how much White Supremacy took off in some places like the North West US. They somehow think we kept it all contained here for the last 120 years.

Oregon was founded as a "white utopia", so I guess it makes sense.

I think we need to admit that we are all racist. Every ethnic majority thinks they are the greatest, it seems. If we can't even admit it, I don't see how it will change.

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Turnout says far less about political views than you might think. Voter suppression is a common and effective tool used to keep a political party in power even as they loose popular support. All it takes is realizing changing X rule like a deadline will help or hurt your party and then voting based on that rule. Eventually this can fail, which oddly enough tends to flip states so they can quickly go from solidly part…

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/08/texas-ken-paxton-ele... Having satisfactorily worked hard to make voting as difficult as possible in Texas, he wants to use the state's limited funds to sue other states that dared to improve their democracy. This is the government of Texas.

I would find it much more interesting if you were to engage on the legal argument being made rather than this sort of perfunctory dismissal.

Are you stating that as long as public officials are "daring to improve their democracy" that they are free to ignore Constitutional requirements that the legislature has plenary authority to proscribe the manor of selecting electors?

Note: Setting aside the likelihood that any of the alleged unconstitutional actions resulted in a different electoral outcome, isn't it important that election law is established through the Constitutionally proscribed legislative process and not via executive and/or bureaucratic actions independent of the legislature?

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…

Pretty interesting to see how much glee many people take in anything negative about California. What is that about? No other state gets so much hate.

because the other states don't suck near as much ass as california

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Do you have any source on these claims? Cause these are typically hard to measure and I get suspicious when I read "Also recent policies decriminalized many acts and have led to rampant street crime" and other welfare correlation with crime. Happy to learn new things tho :)

https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/An-exp... https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-prop-47-shoplifting-th... https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/05/14/shoplifting-cal... Why are you suspicious? When you stop arresting people for crimes and allow criminal behavior then you get more crime. This is so correlated as to be mathematical fact. This is no different to NY removing bail and then being sur…

I'm suspicious because oftentimes things are more complex than a single source. These articles all point to a single prop (47) and seem to really point out to shoplifting. At the same time the homelessness increased 14% from 2016 to 2017. So is there more crime because of lawmaking or more crime because more desperate people with seemingly no other recourse? Not claiming to know better, but when it comes to social issue I'd stay away from claiming "mathematical" like correlations. Just my 2c :)

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I would love to move out of CA in the coming months. My spouse is begging me to. If my job were to finally announce permanent, optional WFH for employees, I list my house for sale that day. Same complaints: cost of living / taxes, quality of life, and kids' education. The only thing keeping me here is my current job and clear opportunities for future [tech] jobs. If WFH became the norm, I'm out of here in 50 millisec…

I'm curious why you bought a house in California to begin with. The cost of living was similar in the last two decades.

Before COVID and the prospect of multiple companies considering optional WFH became a possibility, I figured I was pretty much stuck here for career reasons, so might as well build home equity for 20 years or so.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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California is actively looking for ways to extract more money from Elon. It likely posed an appreciable risk to his business ventures that CA at some point will try to tax unrecognized capital gains, which would require him to liquidate shares to pay the tax. Basically akin to a hostile government takeover. If CA were to aggressively pursue such a policy, they would likely go after anyone they perceived as fleeing ju…

Or, framed differently, California is looking for deep pockets to bail out their failing budget rather than adjust their policy to match what they can afford. The same has been happening in New Jersey with its insane taxes that don't really go to pay for services anymore and have diverted from transportation & infrastructure projects for decades now to bail out their severely underfunded pension funds...where the pen…

There is something incredibly ironic about that, unfunded pension liabilities for pensioners who no longer reside in the locale that gave them their pension.

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> while old residents pay nothing This is patently false. Property taxes can and do raise 2%/year. California does need to build new housing.

It’s simply amazing how allowing to build 50 high rise condos would bring the entire bubble down but the CA (or most American) cities or the state won’t. It will obviously fail on the ballot due to NIMBYism but I’m not sure why would that even need to be on ballot.

This is not completely true, as the cost to build high rise condos is extremely high and the land is very expensive. Every place in the USA that has kept housing affordable has done so with sprawl, which California's government doesn't allow.

You can see a detailed study of it here: https://www.buildzoom.com/blog/cities-expansion-slowing

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