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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by southeastern »

subsubzero wrote: post #677
AnotherGoodName wrote: post #515

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We have a new lines drawn on acceptance for behavior towards sexuality, religion, women's rights and race since the 90's. The line has moved. The 90's was 30 years ago. I don't know your exact situation at all and criticism of you may indeed have been unfair. But for fucks sake don't try to make a case that you're not far-right by looking to the behavior of people in the past. That indicates strongly you may indeed h…

The problem I have with this statement is recently(past 4-5 years) the left has gone extremely far in their beliefs and ideas. Take real life examples like - completely disbanding the police, emptying prisons, outlawing all criminal laws. Deciding that people of a certain race/social class are the cause of all problems. Destruction of city statues without due process. These ideas are dangerous for any functioning soc…

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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by nisuni »

techsupporter wrote: post #220
S_A_P wrote: post #158

Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…

My birth certificate says "Texas" across the top and people have been "fleeing California" to Texas for as long as I've been alive. There's nothing special about Musk; he just happens to be high-profile about it and managed to extract more from California before decamping to a "cheap" state than several of those who came before him. I disagree with your assessment that Texas has wide acceptance for opposing viewpoint…

> Only when I went to college in a college town did people largely seem to want to live and let live.

Well, live and let live sounds pretty ideal, given that in several places across California conservative opinions are not tolerated.

Maybe we agree that a college town in Texas it's a place where opposing viewpoints can still coexist?

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by southeastern »

jdhn wrote: post #450
scop wrote: post #310

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I live in San Francisco. I literally do not see black people. I largely do not see brown people outside of the service industry (i.e. they are "kept back in the kitchen"). I will largely interact with only white people and asian people on any given day. Where I will be moving to in TX has more diversity than where I live in San Francisco, which is something I am happy about. My children will be seeing more black & br…

This makes it sound like you're moving exclusively because you see too many white and asian people, which is kind of a racist motivation.

Seeking diverse environments is racist? Dang someone needs to tell Facebook

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by J0_k3r »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #515
monoideism wrote: post #244

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How do you describe "far-right"? Edit: the reason I ask the question is that I've noticed a trend among people from very left-leaning areas to define anyone slightly right of center as being "far-right". I've been called "far-right" because of beliefs that were typical of moderate Democrats in the 1990s. What label that leaves for people like actual Nazis, fascists, neo-Confederates, etc, I'm not sure. Far-far-far ri…

We have a new lines drawn on acceptance for behavior towards sexuality, religion, women's rights and race since the 90's. The line has moved. The 90's was 30 years ago. I don't know your exact situation at all and criticism of you may indeed have been unfair. But for fucks sake don't try to make a case that you're not far-right by looking to the behavior of people in the past. That indicates strongly you may indeed h…

morality doesn't necessarily get better as time goes on. if you're a secular, then a place such as iran has got worse over time.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by nwsm »

nondeveloper wrote: post #635

For maybe 99% of Californians the decision to move or stay is tied to two factors: increasing cost of living and decreasing quality of life. I lived in the Bay Area from 2010 to 2020 and both factors worsened considerably in that time. While Musk’s move may be an indicator of a kind it reflects on largely different factors than those weighed by most people. Most people don’t strain against state bureaucracies to deve…

Where did you move, and how are you finding it in comparison?

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by Phobophobia »

woah wrote: post #711
lwansbrough wrote: post #588

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If you don’t build luxury housing, affordable housing becomes luxury housing. San Francisco is a perfect example of NIMBY extremism and the damage it does to communities.

It's worse than that: The entire concept of "luxury housing" is a lie. The words "luxury housing" are designed to make you think that it is taking up space that could be used by non luxury housing. Like the only reason a new apartment is so expensive is because it has a gold-plated toilet or something, and if only the developer had built an apartment without a gold plated toilet you could afford it. But in Minneapoli…

Mind posting a zillow link or similar? I'm evaluating moving to different metro areas, and my research for Minnesota yielded higher costs.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by deeviant »

manigandham wrote: post #669
deeviant wrote: post #610

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This description of California reads like a description that somebody that has never been in California but watches fox news would give.

Do you live here? What area? I've been a California resident for over 20 years. Feel free to come down to LA and I'll walk you through the actual streets from downtown to Inglewood. We can even visit a few prisons where I can introduce you to people on both sides of the law, visit the various homeless areas, and talk to the gang task force and DEA agents. Maybe we can also go down to the border and see how things are…

I've lived in California all my life which is over 40 years now, everywhere from LA/Sand Diego to Sacramento, in the bay now. I'm afraid I seem to have more California experience than you.

I'm also from a multi-racial family with rich African American roots and spent many summers and trips with my family who mostly live in Lynwood/Compton (no these aren't scary names to me, just places with fond memories of summers spent with cousins).

> Or perhaps are you too used to a single media perspective

I don't get my perspective from media. I get it from living.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by dntrkv »

muyuu wrote: post #705

Lots of denial in this thread. CA is the most negative State in net domestic migration and TX is second to FL only at the other end of the scale. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... CA is just terrible value for most people currently. I'm not American and neither is Musk, it's not like he's going to make such decision for ideological allegiances. He just gets better value for his money els…

That's in absolute numbers. Per capita, it's number 8, which is still high, but still beat out by NY, NJ, and IL.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by ryanwaggoner »

egsmi wrote: post #312
hiq wrote: post #221

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> In EM's case, I suspect he spends more time business-traveling than at home anyway, so it would be pretty difficult to prove which of his houses he "lives" in. I'm not sure about that. I think in these high profile cases tax authorities are more inclined to look into it given how much money there is in the balance. And it's somewhat easier to track people like EM precisely because of their lifestyles: flights would…

I'll bet EM travels more than the typical CEO, who already travels a lot. Especially if the company is international. https://hbr.org/2018/07/how-ceos-manage-time "About half (47%) of a CEO’s work was done at company headquarters. The rest was conducted while visiting other company locations, meeting external constituencies, commuting, traveling, and at home." Shockingly I didn't see anything about time spent on Hack…

That the life of a CEO sounds horrible?
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