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Re: Show HN: Hystoria – a Reddit-like site where all posts must be 5+ years old

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Post by AlotOfReading »

Fnoord wrote: post #17
AlotOfReading wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These particular constraints may not be ideal, but AskHistorians has a similar restriction called the 20 years rule where discussion of events from the past two decades is verboten. It doesn't automatically make conversation thoughtful, but it's an easily enforced rule that largely precludes modern politics without sacrificing too many topics of interest.

There's still going to be controversy. For example, Turks not admitting Armenian genocide (~100 y.o.). Also, the winner writes history. I guess within those 20 years, the losers get mostly assimilated.

There are still things people care about outside that window, but it has the effect of giving people time to sort out evidence and write things that can be cited. You'll find that there are many posts taking apart those issues.

Re: Show HN: Hystoria – a Reddit-like site where all posts must be 5+ years old

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Post by emayljames »

b0rsuk wrote: post #49

A very interesting idea. I had my own idea: xornews - news about politics that are only in one camp, or the other, but never in both. For example liberal/conservative. That's the main split in my country. But I realized it can't work without a bunch of moderators fascinated by political science.

Politics are binary.

Re: Show HN: Hystoria – a Reddit-like site where all posts must be 5+ years old

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Post by thinkingemote »

b0rsuk wrote: post #49

A very interesting idea. I had my own idea: xornews - news about politics that are only in one camp, or the other, but never in both. For example liberal/conservative. That's the main split in my country. But I realized it can't work without a bunch of moderators fascinated by political science.

The politicalcompassmeme subreddit is an interesting example of co existence. I think the flairs / labels of users is key.

Re: Show HN: Hystoria – a Reddit-like site where all posts must be 5+ years old

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Post by ngold »

moksha256 wrote: post #2

I created Hystoria as an experiment to see if blocking out current events can lead to more thoughtful discourse. --- Hystoria is a simple, reddit-like site (built with a simplified version of Lemmy [0]) where only items older than 5 years can be posted. I've been obsessed with media dynamics for years now, always wondering what variables can be adjusted within the current environment to result in better media product…

This is what makes askhistorians nice. There 20 year real I think. I look forward to checking this out.

Re: Show HN: Hystoria – a Reddit-like site where all posts must be 5+ years old

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Post by moksha256 »

UhDev wrote: post #53

Did you have to wait 5 years to launch this?

Nope, and yet it's being publicized on platforms that prioritize the present :)

But that's the world we live in. No single platform can (or should) dominate the media landscape. Everyone has to play in harmony with everyone else.

There's no silver bullet winner-take-all outcome for this thing we call the media.

Re: Show HN: Hystoria – a Reddit-like site where all posts must be 5+ years old

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Post by NikolaNovak »

moksha256 wrote: post #2

I created Hystoria as an experiment to see if blocking out current events can lead to more thoughtful discourse. --- Hystoria is a simple, reddit-like site (built with a simplified version of Lemmy [0]) where only items older than 5 years can be posted. I've been obsessed with media dynamics for years now, always wondering what variables can be adjusted within the current environment to result in better media product…

Interesting - reminds me of the "Delayed Gratification" magazine I just started subscribing to; it's a less ambitious timeframe, but by being deliberately 1-2 quarters behind, it does avoid a lot of churn and puts in a lot of perspective.

(FWIW: I find I enjoy the magazine, but I find it also spends a bulk of it in discussing interesting but marginal items from 6 months ago, whereas I would've expected a benefit-of-retrospective discussion of key items from the past)

https://www.slow-journalism.com/

Re: Show HN: Hystoria – a Reddit-like site where all posts must be 5+ years old

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Post by [deleted] »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #57
moksha256 wrote: post #2

I created Hystoria as an experiment to see if blocking out current events can lead to more thoughtful discourse. --- Hystoria is a simple, reddit-like site (built with a simplified version of Lemmy [0]) where only items older than 5 years can be posted. I've been obsessed with media dynamics for years now, always wondering what variables can be adjusted within the current environment to result in better media product…

Interesting - reminds me of the "Delayed Gratification" magazine I just started subscribing to; it's a less ambitious timeframe, but by being deliberately 1-2 quarters behind, it does avoid a lot of churn and puts in a lot of perspective. (FWIW: I find I enjoy the magazine, but I find it also spends a bulk of it in discussing interesting but marginal items from 6 months ago, whereas I would've expected a benefit-of-r…

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Re: Show HN: Hystoria – a Reddit-like site where all posts must be 5+ years old

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Post by moksha256 »

headmelted wrote: post #37
moksha256 wrote: post #2

I created Hystoria as an experiment to see if blocking out current events can lead to more thoughtful discourse. --- Hystoria is a simple, reddit-like site (built with a simplified version of Lemmy [0]) where only items older than 5 years can be posted. I've been obsessed with media dynamics for years now, always wondering what variables can be adjusted within the current environment to result in better media product…

You should fire this behind CloudFlare or a general cache provider immediately. Get the settings for Nginx figured out later, you don’t want to miss your moment on the front page..

Yeah I was scrambling for a few minutes there but finally uncovered some not-so-well-documented rate limits set by default in the Lemmy config. I suspect requests will die down pretty quickly after this submission peaks.

Re: Show HN: Hystoria – a Reddit-like site where all posts must be 5+ years old

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Post by anchpop »

emayljames wrote: post #50
anchpop wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does lemmy still do the thing where they censor certain words and don't include a way to configure the censorship to try and discourage certain groups from using it?

I would seriously question why you would want to attract anybody that used any of the regex statements words, but is as easy as changing it in the code.

Really? You can't go 10 minutes in many LGBT spaces without hearing someone using the f-slur in an affectionate way. Also banned is "b!tch", which is not really considered that offensive in most of the US between female friends, as well as "pu!sy", which is maybe vulgar but not an offensive term at all (I notice "dick" didn't make cut). Maybe for a site like Hacker News those terms aren't usually appropriate, but I see Lemmy \more as a replacement for Reddit and I'd hoped it would be inclusive to everyone, not just to those in their bubble.

I don't know how their system works, if using these words just means the comment won't be shared or if it flags it for a moderator's attention, but I don't think so. Here's a direct quote from a developer:

> I'll have to think about this. Hard-coding it means I don't have to do a database migration every time someone comes up with a new slur. And putting it in a DB table means someone could very easily remove it by deleting every row of that table, which isn't good. I want to make it very difficult for racist trolls to use the most updated version of Lemmy.

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622

In my view this goes against the core point of the fediverse. The whole reason I like the fediverse is because it democratizes control by giving it to the users instead of a small-group of potentially self-interested owners.

(After googling I found out "n!ps" can be used as a racial slur but I associate it with a funny slang for "nipples". I wondered how the AI conference dealt with this but apparently they changed their name a couple years back to avoid connotations with the slur so maybe it's more widespread/well known than I thought.)

(edit: censored slurs. asterisk didn't work because it triggered the markdown so I used !)

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