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Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Post by vanusa »

octopoc wrote: post #4

> [the aliens] wished to prevent mass hysteria I don't think any government agency has a right to hide the existence of aliens from the public for the public's good, whether the aliens consent or not. Proof of the existence of aliens would impact our understanding of the universe and ourselves so fundamentally that hiding their existence is cruel. It would be like teaching your kids not to kiss or they'll get pregnan…

I don't think any government agency has a right

You think that you have some say over what rights governments have?

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Post by cdnpal »

octopoc wrote: post #4

> [the aliens] wished to prevent mass hysteria I don't think any government agency has a right to hide the existence of aliens from the public for the public's good, whether the aliens consent or not. Proof of the existence of aliens would impact our understanding of the universe and ourselves so fundamentally that hiding their existence is cruel. It would be like teaching your kids not to kiss or they'll get pregnan…

You should consider that these aliens may be small insects or even microscopic. Our scale is not "universal". Revealing them could endanger them?

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Post by rspoerri »

We were visited by aliens and i did not even get a lousy tshirt?

No, seriously, i would like to discuss terms of humanity joining your galactic federation. And About the promised tshirts. I might not be representative, but neighter is the current president of the usa. At least i try to be funny, he is definately not. I wear M, address is at my ip, please dont forget the custom declaration documents when sending the package.

Kind regards :-)

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Post by cdnpal »

cdnpal wrote: post #92
octopoc wrote: post #4

> [the aliens] wished to prevent mass hysteria I don't think any government agency has a right to hide the existence of aliens from the public for the public's good, whether the aliens consent or not. Proof of the existence of aliens would impact our understanding of the universe and ourselves so fundamentally that hiding their existence is cruel. It would be like teaching your kids not to kiss or they'll get pregnan…

You should consider that these aliens may be small insects or even microscopic. Our scale is not "universal". Revealing them could endanger them?

Consider for a second if some highly intelligent tardigrades or resilient small insects from another civilization hitched a ride on a comet in suspended animation, then took a small fragment to earth. It could be as abstract as that, and it would fit a similar description. The fact that most of the readers here expect a human-like creature at our scale with x neurons and physiology like us is pretty naïve. It's sort of like Hollywood OS to actual operating systems. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-says-he-...

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Post by cdnpal »

cdnpal wrote: post #92
octopoc wrote: post #4

> [the aliens] wished to prevent mass hysteria I don't think any government agency has a right to hide the existence of aliens from the public for the public's good, whether the aliens consent or not. Proof of the existence of aliens would impact our understanding of the universe and ourselves so fundamentally that hiding their existence is cruel. It would be like teaching your kids not to kiss or they'll get pregnan…

You should consider that these aliens may be small insects or even microscopic. Our scale is not "universal". Revealing them could endanger them?

I hate to say this, but he doesn't even detail their level of intelligence. There very well could be life around Venus in the atmosphere for instance: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03258-5 How intelligent are they? What is their physiology? If they are in fact tiny insects or microscopic, then a subterranean base on Mars would be trivial. Our participation could simply be logistic in nature. Nothing was said in detail. If we can make 7nm bitcoin miner ASICs we could certainly do that. He's being very intentionally non-specific for a reason here. Like it's a less-than spectacular life-form? With less than spectacular space travel?

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Post by [deleted] »

uniqueid wrote: post #39
breck wrote: post #34

Here he is talking 9 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myjSeORB1Og The dude seems legit. This could be real.

This could be real. Yeah, it's not. The saying goes "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", not "extraordinary claims must come from one important-sounding guy."

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Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Post by 3131s »

whack wrote: post #89
istorical wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, if you just want highly credentialed people saying they believe they've seen evidence of extraterrestrial spacecraft or life, you can look at Senate Majority leader Harry Reid, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Christopher Mellon, a ton of former astronauts, Arizona Gov. Fife Symington, Sen. Mike Gravel, Representative Roscoe Bartlett, former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer. Really…

I looked up the first example you gave, and it doesn't seem even remotely close. Harry Reid is saying that the US government is covering up evidence of "possible close encounters with UFOs" . And that we should "at least be spending some money to study all these phenomena? Shouldn’t we study this stuff? The answer is yes. That’s all this was about" . He also does not claim to have any definitive answers himself, abou…

The other poster already tried to inform you, but this is not unprecedented. The USA government has been claiming the existence of aliens since the 1950s! Lots of notable people have claimed to know of extraterrestrial contact, not that I believe them.

Re: Former Israeli space security chief says aliens exist, humanity not ready

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Post by cdnpal »

cdnpal wrote: post #92
octopoc wrote: post #4

> [the aliens] wished to prevent mass hysteria I don't think any government agency has a right to hide the existence of aliens from the public for the public's good, whether the aliens consent or not. Proof of the existence of aliens would impact our understanding of the universe and ourselves so fundamentally that hiding their existence is cruel. It would be like teaching your kids not to kiss or they'll get pregnan…

You should consider that these aliens may be small insects or even microscopic. Our scale is not "universal". Revealing them could endanger them?

Sorry about this late reply, but also consider that their temporal existence could be different than ours. They could potentially live and die 100 lifespans in a day or visa versa. UFOs could potentially look like they are doing erratic flying maneuvers because they are in a different temporal environment than us. The fact that the Slate article saying that a Martian underground base is impossible uses humans as a reference, and it shouldn't. I have a sinking feeling that people are assuming that these aliens breath oxygen like us. Or that they live on land like us. All of our physical, temporal, and other properties can be dissimilar to aliens, as they are often times to other plants and animals that live here on earth with us. https://slate.com/culture/2020/12/mars-base-haim-eshed-galac...
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